I mean, the problem isn’t that they’ll look like hypocrites…

The problem is that the bullshit they spout can be used against them in court.

For instance, some of these companies are on trial for using copyrighted works for training. One could claim that the training of a model is fair use. One of the criteria for establishing fair use, is that it doesn’t damage the market for the original work.

But their email claim they think LLMs can effectively damage the creators of the content they use, and they publicly repeated over and over how their AIs will make everyone unemployed.

Now they could say that they bullshitted the public, but then MSFT is a public corp, so that might be considered market manipulation? And indeed Microsoft has walked that back earlier than most others.

It’s written basically as if the reader is also expected to be American.

Which annoyed me.

But I’ve had a rough week. Never mind me.

Americans are the only ones who fly to American cities without getting scanned… Because it’s an internal flight.

I don’t think there’s a corner left in the industrialized world where you can go through passport control at the airport without getting your face scanned. At least as a foreigner.

Tell me you’re American without tellim me you’re American.

Vanadium was built with security at the forefront of design, not privacy. They’re two distinct disciplibes.

Hopefully no GrapheneOS users read this. I’m so fed up with being told: “YoU cAn’T hAvE pRiVaCy WiThOuT sEcUrItY” over and over whenever I say there may be tradeoffs.

I quite often switch between multiple European languages, and can basically type any character in any of them using a US-international layout, with dead keys.

I can make all French and Italian accents, German Umlauts, and put a Tilda on the n for the Spaniards. Both uppercase and lowercase letters.

Cute, but I want to give a shoutout to

https://www.xteink.com/

Xteink already makes such devices, including the magnetic connection.

In addition to the the cool form factor, and the magnetic attachment, there’s a whole host of custom, open source firmwares for it such a Papyrix, Crosspoint, or Crossink.

I tend to agree, but I have occasionally seen my fellow AI skeptics behaving horribly towards people that decided to use LLMs in their own development of their own project.

The Lutris drama comes to mind, but I was also not very happy to find out that the creator of Booklore had deleted his repo after being fed up with all the harassment.

And there’s plenty more.

Sure, it’s been forked, but what the hell people, it’s his project, which is for a self hosted ebook library anyway, nothing that’s supposed to save the world. Could you all be cool? Please? At least in the github issues?

I even think you’re right on the issue, but just because you’re right doesn’t mean you have to be such a dick about it.

Understandable, but tough luck. If the budget is high, Apple TV might be acceptable.

There’s always aurora. And you can install the streaming apps directly on the shield.

But you can forget high quality paid streams. Without a proprietary ROM you’re confined at low quality 720p for all the DRMd streaming providers.

(Of course no such problems streaming your ripped blue rays from your Jellyfin server)

I mean, you are on a privacy subreddit, e don’t mention how much exposure you’re willing to tolerate, and exposure to who.

With a Chromecast your streaming provider knows what you’re watching, and Google know what you’re watching.

Using a degoogled android means giving up on high end widevine support, which means that even if Netflix (or everything else) works, you’ll be stuck at 720p low quality.

By pirating, putting everything on a Jellyfin server, then streaming via upnp no one is watching (maybe your TV manufacturer, depends) and maybe you don’t even need a streaming box, but of course a used Nvidia shield with lineageos will make for a better experience.

I think you’re running a bit there, and the Norwegian Crowns Icelandic Krona would like a word with you.

You have drank so much koolaid that you think you’re not a working class creator, you’re a temporarily embarrassed Taylor Swift.

The accumulation, gatekeeping, and rent extraction is the point of the system, and if you think it’s a system that’s made to protect the little guy, just look around yourself.

I can’t stop you from doing anything else with it. I can’t stop you from burning it, eating it, fucking it, shooting it, or using it as a door stop. I only have the power to prevent you from redistributing it.

But you can stop me. Because copyright law legally protects any DRM you want to place over that, and breaking it is copyright infringement regardless of the final purpose of it. And “noone will know if I don’t distribute it” is not an answer.

Sure. You say that like it’s a bad thing, but that’s why inventors can do what they do and survive.

No, like I said, I believe it should exist, I just believe it should be reduced significantly.

I’m an inventor. If I didn’t have my patent, Google could just come and take my idea, build their own version, and undercut me. Isn’t that a worse monopoly? As it stands, if Google wants to sell my product, they have to buy my patent. That’s a great system that protects small inventors like me.

Good for you. You’ll offer me a beer when you make your first billion. But you won’t.

The IP system is part of the reason why the tech sector is now so consolidated. Your patent would have been a lot more valuable in a more competitive world.

Correct. The states invented them because of a problem.

So, intellectual property is not like “normal” property of limited physical goods. We finally agree on something.

I should be able to profit off of my works for my entire life. Arguably, my heirs should be able to benefit from my works too. If I don’t have a fortune to give them, because I’m not a capitalist pig, at least they can benefit from my hard work.

My father worked in a factory his entire life. How come I don’t get continuous revenue from his work, but you expect your heirs to?

You want multi-generational profit from work you are completely done with. You actually are a capitalist pig, you’re just a less successful one.

copyright being automatic is necessary to prevent the system from being abused even more.

A 90 year automatic copyright means that the overwhelming majority of works produced in the last 100 years are orphan works. Stuff which you can’t use, but you can’t even tell who, if anyone, still has the copyright. The combination of a shorter automatic term with a registration-based extension would solve that.

You’ve clearly never been through the patent process. They went over my patent with a fine toothed comb. I went through three rounds of revision and had to take an entire section of claims out (because it might have been too close to an existing patent, which I thought was ridiculous, but whatever). I spoke with the patent examiner who absolutely had read my entire application and understood it very well.

Yeah, I am not in the US, but I do read US patents on a regular basis. While I can only speak for my field, I see the kind if crap that the USPO passes as if it’s valid, and it’s quite frankly embarrassing. Yes, an existing patent can be a hurdle. But the fact that the invention is totally trivial to a person “trained in the art” or even already published, does not seem to be a problem.

Very often US patents can’t be converted into patents into other jurisdictions, or half the claims gets struck down.

And I have seen the exact same (trivial) invention patented twice by different companies, because the stated purpose of it was slightly different. A fictional difference as in practice both products are exactly interchangeable and do the same work.

And let’s not even get into the whole nonsense of gene patenting.

But no problem here, let’s patent physical laws next.

Just because you don’t like Disney doesn’t mean that copyright laws are broken. Yeah, Disney kinda sucks lately.

It’s not just Disney. It’s everything and everyone. Nintendo? Sega? Are Alien sequels being made because they are such great ideas or because it’s profitable to milk the IPs?

It’s just too easy for them to extract value from existing IPs, to be bothered with putting the same money into new stuff.

If you don’t like giving to the creators whose work you are building on, just come up with your own ideas. Tons of artists use their own original content.

Lol, just say you have no idea how jazz works, or that you don’t like this kind of degenerate art. You’ll be in good company.

And jazz is just an example of the kind of “remix art” that have been fundamental to cultural development of the 20th century.

I do own my copyrighted material. You own a copy. You can’t redistribute it (without my permission), because I own the copyright.

So you have a right over my copy, and you can decide what I do with it. That’s what I said. You are the sole person to have the right to produce copies. There’s a word for that, it’s a monopoly.

And since your material can, materially, be copied, copyright only exists as enforced by the state. It’s a state enforced private monopoly. And so are patents.

And these didn’t exist until the states introduced them. This is pretty factual.

We cannot agree. It’s not gotten out of hand.

So you think that at automatic, untraceable term of 90 years if perfectly reasonable?

You think that the ability by large corporations of amassing and gatekeeping (no derivative work without their permission) 100 years of human culture is just fine? The ability to keep under control works that they are not even distributing, which then means that these can’t even be read, listened or watched… This is all fine?

You like how the US patent systems grants a patent without any real examination for basically anything that written in English, no matter how ridiculous?

You love the endless cultural slop milking the same damn IPs for nostalgia?

It pleases you that every artist who records a version of “my favourite things” (or any other jazz standards) ends up giving 90% of the proceeds to the heirs of the same two dead white dudes? Or how sampling basically destroys the revenue potential of a new song because the author of the sample is going to eat up the work of new artists?

You think your viral video wouldn’t have been adequately protected with, say, a 30 year term? You think 5 years in jail for a private copy of a blue ray is good and proportional?

Because it does violate our copyrights.

Apparently it often doesn’t. Courts have already ruled on this. When the billionaires do it, it’s fair use.

True, and I have to admit I went off on a tangent, because I hear the other argument, the normative one, all too often.

I exactly said that I don’t want the abolition of IP. I quote from my own comment:

I don’t want to argue that intellectual property should be abolished, I’m not convinced that that would be beneficial.

What is your problem again?

Copyright law isn’t just a two states exists/doesn’t exist kind of thing.

While it exists it can be good or written like ass in about 50 different dimensions.

I would say that it’s often not the same computer.

We know for a fact that LLMs have been trained on all available open source codebases.

Do we know that there is a relevant amount of closed source code in the training data?

I’m constantly baffled by the copyright argument.

Intellectual property isn’t even real property (exclusive power over a thing), it’s a licensed monopoly enforced by the state, which gives the copyright owner power over many many things, present and future, not actually owned by them. Books that are in my house, software that is on your phone.

I don’t want to argue that intellectual property should be abolished, I’m not convinced that that would be beneficial. But I think we can all agree that the currently landscape of intellectual property legislation is utter nonsense, that it’s gotten completely out of hand, and that it mainly encourages concentration and gatekeeping.

So yes, the model producers have blatantly disregarded copyright, and have gotten away with it in ways which are not available to us peasants.

But we’re the copyleft people, we should be pointing at this and shouting that the emperor is finally naked, and that it’s time to curtail all that nonsense legislation once and for all, so that we can all be a little freer from the shackles of corporate monopoly.

And instead, we (the copyleft guys!) are just sitting here clutching our copyright pearls while muttering “but… But… Copyright! It violates the precious copyright!”.

What’s an electromagnetic microscope simulator? For reference, I work in electron optics.