• Comment105@lemm.ee
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    1 year ago

    Hey Hexbear, if you’re dropping by, let me know when Russian and Chinese workers seize the means of production.

    In the meantime I’m sitting here oppressed in Norway.

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      Polling says that Norway is #7 happiest country on Earth. Finland is #1, Denmark is #2…I wonder where China is on that list OwO

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      Bruh, we have oppressed people in Norway. Did you forget that our own supreme court ruled that some of our wind mills at Fosen are in violation of UN law of civil and political rights (source in Norwegian). That was two years ago and they are still standing, which is especially bad due to the historical repression and attempts at ethnic cleansing of Sámi people in Norway, that was going on for a disturbingly long time. Now, as a quick caveat I will add that on a global scale we are doing pretty alright. However, that you are fortunate and well, for which I am glad, does not mean that the sentiment of the meme is wrong. Since the 70s much of the good systems we built have been demolished by laissez-faire politics and politicians, like your beloved “Jern-Erna”, lowering corporate taxes and allowing for privatization of public services (our railway system, healthcare and so on). I also don’t think many people from Hexbear are deluded enough to believe in imminent revolution in Russia nor conflating the Russian government with the Communist Party of China (though I might suspect you do), making your comment either worthless or in bad faith (we both know it is both). Either way, I support seizing the means of production and voted for my convictions today. Even though I believe I probably fundamentally disagree with you, I hope you did too. Leave the “all communists are tankie fascists” idea at home please. It only makes you look ignorant and a bad representative for our nice little country.

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      … You realize Norway is one of the examples we use of a successful socialist state right?

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        norway isn’t socialist, but a social democracy where they move all the unethical labour somewhere else. it’s miles better than neoliberalism, but it’s still capitalist

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        … You do realize we hear most internet communists we come across argue that we’d be so much better if we were run like Russian or China?

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          Those guys are idiots.

          Best solution for Norway is to continue exporting undesirable labor like they’ve been doing, until the oil runs out, out demand dries up. Not sure what you’ll do then but you won’t be alone anyway.

          It’s not best for everyone, by any means. But it’s best for Norway.

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            Yeah best for everyone would be if we invaded Finland and put people in jail for bringing up history.

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      Not hexbear but aren’t you Norwegians an oppressive oil state? You guys were bombing brown people for fun a couple of years back. Isn’t Stoltenburg one of your guys? He just admitted to intentionally provoking the Russian invasion.

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        Oh look! A commie!

        Say hi when you meet our little black sparrow-sized drones. All you have to do to earn a visit is mention how we fucked over the Sami, we really don’t like those things. Oh, and don’t insult Jern-Erna if she gets back in power, she’ll divebomb you and leave nothing but a crater. Say what you will about Støre, he’s a soggy twig.

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    Does the rooster have a GoFundMe? I’d like to support their heroic commitment to the people.

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    The pig should shut up. It’s time to wake up the sheep.

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    I’m south african. My government has the means of production for electricity seized (they own Eskom which has a monopoly.) It is well known that while the regular person has to deal with load shedding, the government officials do not

    Add the issues with South African Airways and I would not like all the means of production to be owned by the government

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      Trust me, you don’t want those amenities in the hands of unelected greedy business men either.

      Load shedding is still better than not having any electricity at all because it isn’t profitable enough to manage the power net in your region.

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        At least the greedy business men have a business to run. The politicians just get bailed out and spend it on luxury cars

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      You live in a dictatorship of the bourgeoisie, i.e. a liberal democracy where the bourgeoisie (owners of the means of production) dictate the laws.

      State owned companies work for the interests of the ruling class, in this case the bourgeoisie, so you can bet it is subsidized by the people and the ruling class (and their businesses) benefit off it. (Socializing losses and privatizing profits)

      If it was owned by say Elon Musk, it wouldn’t be any different for the regular working class people. Only the relations between the bourgeoisie may change.

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        In other terms, he’s at the more equal pig stage.

        The working class should own the means, not the ruling class.

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    Is this a memes community? Or a soviet shit hole? I escaped reddit because it was shit and the ultra gatekeeping communists shitfaces, I hate to leave lemmy because of this as well, not many capitalists around this site -_-

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      I’m deeply sorry that we don’t like supporting the oppression of marginalized groups here

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        Yes, as if communism doesnt support opressing literally everyone, you western “communists” are really special aren’t ya?

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          Love how you just assume I’m from the west. I’m eastern european, my family is also, and we lived through everything - and I’ve yet to meet someone other than western investors and young kids who thinks things are good/better now

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      I’m genuinely curious - what do you think communism is? There’s been a lot of definitions over the years and a lot of confusion over the subject, so I’m really interested to hear what do people such as yourself think communism really is that makes them hostile to the idea.

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        Myself? I like the dictionary definition of communism.

        I’m short, worker enfranchisement and abolition of the commodity form.

        Edit: Look at the definitely intellectually honest morons downvoting the dictionary definition of communism.