It wouldn’t be terrible if it happened, but there’s no path to actually making that happen that wouldn’t make more sense to go for revolution. Even when congress was more controlled by the Democrats, no such program emerged.
No, I’m not. The conditions that led to the New Deal are entirely different from the conditions of today, so we must reexamine if such a program could be forced into passing today. I don’t believe there’s a path to that, unless there is already revolutionary pressure bubbling and risking the entire system.
You can’t just pray progress into existence. If this second New Deal has no electoral path to implementation, it doesn’t exist, and ergo isn’t progress. To the contrary, based on the analysis of our conditions I have done, I think revolution is genuinely more feasible than passing the New Deal again, and moreover a New Deal would not stop Imperialism, we’d need revolution anyways.
Except there was actual progress under Carter, Clinton, and Obama. It wasn’t huge, but it was progress. You choosing to ignore it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
You’re the one who has gone faith based. You can’t give me one actual fact to make me think the USA is anywhere near a Socialist revolution.
And I can point to Blackwater and the other mercenary companies to show that if the Revolution comes, it will be instantly subverted.
There was decay under all of those, though. The US has been getting worse, using a bucket on a sinking tanker will not fix the underlying problems, we need a solution, not another bucket.
As for revolution, it is neither easy nor impossible, but rather difficult and possible. Studying revolution proves this consistently true.
See, that’s not what I said, though. I can say that it would be great to have universal healthcare, but that we cannot “pray it into existence,” and therefore the question of how we get there is important. Critically, this has been a salient topic for decades, and yet the Democrats have not implemented it, nor does it seem like they would if they had the majority.
Just as important as the ideas themselves is the path to implementing them.
It wouldn’t be terrible if it happened, but there’s no path to actually making that happen that wouldn’t make more sense to go for revolution. Even when congress was more controlled by the Democrats, no such program emerged.
Now you’re saying the New Deal never existed?
No, I’m not. The conditions that led to the New Deal are entirely different from the conditions of today, so we must reexamine if such a program could be forced into passing today. I don’t believe there’s a path to that, unless there is already revolutionary pressure bubbling and risking the entire system.
There’s the problem right there. You’re ready to throw away any progress because it isn’t perfect
You guys saw Ronald Reagan, but couldn’t get behind Carter because he wasn’t good enough.
Same with Bush and Gore, and Clinton and Trump.
You guys are the biggest friends the Right ever had.
Heck, go back to the 1930s. The Fascists then labeled themselves Anti-Communist and reaped the rewards.
The road to hell is paved with good intentions. That’s all you have. good intentions.
You can’t just pray progress into existence. If this second New Deal has no electoral path to implementation, it doesn’t exist, and ergo isn’t progress. To the contrary, based on the analysis of our conditions I have done, I think revolution is genuinely more feasible than passing the New Deal again, and moreover a New Deal would not stop Imperialism, we’d need revolution anyways.
Except there was actual progress under Carter, Clinton, and Obama. It wasn’t huge, but it was progress. You choosing to ignore it doesn’t mean it didn’t happen.
You’re the one who has gone faith based. You can’t give me one actual fact to make me think the USA is anywhere near a Socialist revolution.
And I can point to Blackwater and the other mercenary companies to show that if the Revolution comes, it will be instantly subverted.
There was decay under all of those, though. The US has been getting worse, using a bucket on a sinking tanker will not fix the underlying problems, we need a solution, not another bucket.
As for revolution, it is neither easy nor impossible, but rather difficult and possible. Studying revolution proves this consistently true.
You keep repeating the same thing over and over.
People should not have any health insurance at all until the Revolution comes and makes it perfect.
People should accept tanspeople getting killed until the Revolution.
We shouldn’t do anything to improve anything until the revolution.
Like I said, you’re the best friend the fascists ever had.
Imagine if you actually responded to what Cowbee says, rather than making up wild strawmen to put in his mouth
See, that’s not what I said, though. I can say that it would be great to have universal healthcare, but that we cannot “pray it into existence,” and therefore the question of how we get there is important. Critically, this has been a salient topic for decades, and yet the Democrats have not implemented it, nor does it seem like they would if they had the majority.
Just as important as the ideas themselves is the path to implementing them.
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