• Snot Flickerman@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    4 days ago

    https://rufuspollock.com/papers/optimal_copyright_term.pdf

    June 15, 2009

    Using existing data on recordings and books we obtain a point estimate of around 15 years for optimal copyright term with a 99% confidence interval extending up to 38 years

    Some of us have been waiting for copyright laws to be amended downward for 16 years now.

    I’m not promoting that corporations should get a free pass, I just want them to be held to the same standards they held the Pirate Bay to if we’re gonna pretend that current copyright laws are good, since the centerpiece of the court case against the Pirate Bay was that they were making money from what they did. OpenAI is making shitloads of money from what they did.

    But I’m all for shortening copyright, but not getting rid of it. Reforms don’t have to be pro-corporate slop.

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      What pirate bay is doing isn’t exactly transformative. I pirate most of my media and can’t say I’m not for better copyright laws and a better treatment of pirate bay, I just think the situations are different.

      I don’t think saying “if pirate bay is illegal, so should training ai without compensations” is exactly fair. (I wish the actual people contributing could be compensated, but how it’s set up, we would be giving a few companies a monopoly while compensating mostly data aggregators.)

      Reforms don’t have to be pro-corporate slop.

      Sadly, the media and most of the population is practically begging for it. When you couple that with the pressure exerted by record companies, publishing houses, etc, it is clear those are the reforms we get if any.

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        If you download a movie from a torrent site, you have committed an illegal act in the US. It doesn’t matter if you watch the movie and then write a fanfiction based on the movie. It’s the copying that’s illegal. It seems clear from OpenAI’s statements that they torrented the data they used to build their models.