• kreskin@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    Even with Biden exiting late, that was a winnable election and the dems botched it by trying to fit as much evil as they thought they could get away with into the platform-- so they could cash the most checks from AIPAC.

    If Harris had just said two weeks before the general that she thought what was going on was genocide, she’d be president right now and the minimum of campaign funding would have been lost. Sure the far right would never donate to the dems again, but when you look at what their donations cost us all, why would anyone take that money anyway?

    Bringing their priorities into the party was always a massive mistake by DNC leadership.

    And the dems like yourself learned nothing from the loss and keep preaching to others to accept lesser evils. When it comes to crimes against humanity I think you’ll find for the dems that enough of their base says “never again – for any ethnicity” that they should not even try this again unless they absolutely want to lose. Theres barely enough base to even try to win again in any case. We’re past any sort of ‘optimizing for highest $$’ strategizing and just fighting for the party to even exist at all anymore. So maybe take your lesser evil metaphor and fold it till its all sharp corners and do the needful.

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      8 days ago

      Pretending like you can predict elections is stupid. Nobody knows “what would have happened” and suggesting it is stupid. Ain’t nothing predictable about this dimension.

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        Voting and issue polling is not exactly a totally random and unpredictable phenomenon. I know my peeps. If Harris said the words-- even pretended to deviate from Biden, youth and progressives would have showed. And yes, she would have lost the pro war crowd, but thats a tiny group compared to the ones who didnt vote or voted third party.

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          8 days ago

          The youth never show.

          And the “pro-war crowd” is larger than the “anti-war crowd” where it comes to Israel.

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            7 days ago

            Note true.

            https://news.gallup.com/poll/657404/less-half-sympathetic-toward-israelis.aspx

            Who knew that murdering innocent human beings in cold blood would have consequences. Time to open that pocketbook and buy more hasbara marketing, zionists. And the world hasnt even witnessed the mass starvation yet. Getting away with that without a military intervention by someone more powerful is going to be really expensive isnt it.

            I’m sure you zionists already have a rough cost projection, whats the budget on that?

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      8 days ago

      What makes you think that?

      What evidence do you have?

      The fact a bunch of people on Twitter said it doesn’t mean it’s a 1:1 ratio to voting.

      All the polls agree people lean more towards Israel than Palestine. Particularly in swing states like Ohio and Pennsylvania.