• PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
    link
    fedilink
    arrow-up
    15
    arrow-down
    2
    ·
    18 hours ago

    Is that even happening? Considered US police and various letter agencies are basically at the level of open warfare against the population i would imagine population of such a liberty loving country would fight back…

    • IttihadChe@lemmy.ml
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      2
      ·
      10 hours ago

      Do you expect individuals to go up to their local government and let loose? What do you think the result of that would be?

      That’s not how resistance movements work and never has been.

      You must build first. Read history.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        arrow-down
        1
        ·
        10 hours ago

        I’m calling up Americans and their relation to government. They are not the courageous liberty loving individuals they claim they are, there is plenty of gun violence in USA but very little if any is against the government and for their liberties despite it becing cited as the main reason of what is otherwise just a gun fetishism.

        Point is: liberalism sucks and is unable to organise anyone for anything.

        • IttihadChe@lemmy.ml
          link
          fedilink
          English
          arrow-up
          1
          arrow-down
          1
          ·
          9 hours ago

          Well Americans aren’t a monolith and as I said, individuals taking action against a government achieves nothing. Do you believe America has achieved a mass leftist movement capable of overthrowing the govt?

          Unless you are in China, Cuba, Vietnam, or NK you really don’t have a valid platform to criticize a people not overthrowing their government, have you partaken in the overthrow of your government/do you agree with your government?

          Considering the OP is mocking a “leftist” liberal advocating the disarmament of the people. Do you think OP/most people agreeing with OP here are right wing liberals or ollectivist leftists? It seems to me you are advocating for liberal individualism or from a similar liberal view unless I’m drastically misunderstanding something.

    • Merva@sh.itjust.works
      link
      fedilink
      arrow-up
      3
      arrow-down
      2
      ·
      12 hours ago

      Yeah, Americans love to fantasise about their beloved 2nd amendment (regardless of political persuasion), but they have never ever used it for what they (falsely) claim it was intended for.

    • Belly_Beanis [he/him]@hexbear.net
      link
      fedilink
      English
      arrow-up
      1
      arrow-down
      1
      ·
      9 hours ago

      Police and the military aren’t attacked in the US because the majority of Americans think those are good things. Americans want white supremacy and classicism enforced. Americans just think the enforcement is being done to the wrong groups, so they carry out mass shootings against schools, churches, etc. as a correction.

      The actually oppressed are in no position to openly engage in warfare against the government. MLK pointed out it would be a disaster because the retaliation would exceed any forces black Americans could muster. Look at how much pearl clutching was done in the wake of the George Floyd protests. The so-called moderates immediately supported the pigs throwing people into unmarked vans.

      • PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml
        link
        fedilink
        arrow-up
        1
        ·
        edit-2
        3 hours ago

        Yes, again, US gun fetishist do nothing except shooting schoolkids. Butt Skaven is inventing fictional scenarios in his butt to get the thrill of being at the cops’s side despite he and his entire party never did anything else in his entire life.