• RaivoKulli@sopuli.xyz
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    17 hours ago

    I’m a bit confused, we are talking about the deal (the pact) they made that they did sign and respect?

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      17 hours ago

      Yes, the Soviets respected the pact, they just didn’t expect it to last, and the pact didn’t include joint plans for invading Poland.

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        16 hours ago

        I can agree to that. The agreement was just about dividing Poland between them, with obvious hint towards coming invasion, but it doesn’t go into more details.

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              16 hours ago

              Sure, after the Nazis had toppled the Polish state and the Nazis were stepping into modern Ukraine and Lithuania against the pact.

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                16 hours ago

                What country were those areas part of at the time of the invasion though. Weren’t those part of Poland and didn’t Germany and Soviet Union divide the area as agreed?

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                  16 hours ago

                  Ethnically they were Ukrainian and Lithuanian. They were governed by Poland, yes, and I never stated otherwise, but the Soviet Union and Nazis never agreed to “divide the area.” You keep pressing that by saying they implied it, but have produced no evidence for it nor why they would want to.

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                    16 hours ago

                    Soviet Union and Nazis never agreed to “divide the area.”

                    Secret protocol, article 2

                    In the event of a territorial and political rearrangement of the areas belonging to the Polish state the spheres of influence of Germany and the U.S.S.R. shall be bounded approximately by the line of the rivers Narew, Vistula, and San. ’

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                    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German–Soviet_Boundary_and_Friendship_Treaty

                    These aren’t implications, these are very clear cut. The “in the event of a territorial and political rearrangement” is the implied invasion. The dividing the area is just in plain language.