They dont care. They want people to be in line. Remember that tech bastard who said he wants to make AI pervasive and to force people to be on their best behavior? You think he’s talking about Jay walking and shoplifting? He is talking about political or economic protests and advocacy. They don’t give a fuck if murderers and armed robbers get away with their shit.
Look at what is happening in the UK. There are hundreds of arrests with their new law and basically all of them sre activists or people sharing information the genocide in Gaza. They then took fingerprints and DNA samples from them to enter into a database and they locked them up in jail for days.
Count dankula, a fascist youtuber in the UK only got a fine when he taught his dog how to do a Nazi salute and showed the video online. He never had to give fingerprints or DNA and never spent any time in a cell.
The owners of the AI are centering their personal iterests first.
Who here thinks businesses and CEOs exist to serve the public interests? I have a bridge to sell you.
If we want businesses and CEOs to serve the public inerests ahead of their personal interests we have to FORCE them to.
This problem is so bad it even has a name as a “principle agent problem”. The CEOs and other execs routinely steal from even their “own” publicly traded companies, but it is hardly ever litigated as it is hard to prove without violating the privacy of the CEOs. The most obvious method is via kickbacks. They get under the table payments from the contractor companies when deciding which contractor should get the contract.
The business world is rife with scum and villainy. If we ever want some guardrails around business practices we must grab the CEOs by their genitals. Because taking their word for anything is worth the sound that the word makes.
CEOs need to see jail time, and capital punishment in states that allow it.
Instead we lionize these psychopaths and call them “business leaders”. We brought all this on ourselves by uncritically believing the businesses’ own way of describing themselves.
Wait until you see what the Fascists will do once they’re in power, because they ain’t gonna abolish the OSA or delist Palestine Action from the Proscribed Orgs list, that’s for sure. Reform UK are saying “we’re against the OSA” while at the same time banning books from Libraries in Council areas they control.
We are fucked five ways from sideways, the previous fuckers fucked things up, the current fuckers are fucking things up, the next fuckers are gonna fuck things up even more.
Hey CIA, @ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online thinks that Skynet persecuting Americans who disagree with Skynet might not be ultra patriotic, or sufficiently supportive of Israel genocide. Swat them now!
Hello CIA Agent, have you thought about licking the barrel of your gun, just to see how it feels like ?
Just try it, come on aren’t you curious to feel your cold steel of justice on your tongue ?
Yes, just like that
Now grip the handle firmly and just, lightly touch the trigger, can you feel the power the end life on your finger ?
Isn’t that awesome, how you can end life with a simple click
What if you did it, it wouldn’t hurt, it would just stop, just try it, you’ll see
There are hundreds of arrests with their new law and basically all of them sre activists or people sharing information the genocide in Gaza. They then took fingerprints and DNA samples from them to enter into a database and they locked them up in jail for days.
… He never had to give fingerprints or DNA and never spent any time in a cell.
Erm, what?
Those hundreds of people have been arrested for offences under the Terrorism Act, protesting about the genocide in Gaza, and because they used the name of a (currently) proscribed terrorist group. Fingerprinting for arrests is default, DNA is a new one on me, but probably because they are under arrest for charges loosely related to terrorism, then that’s procedure. They weren’t arrested for other Public Order offences like Dankula would have likely been charged under. Although I am surprised Dankula didn’t have to give fingerprints at a minimum. I did when I got caught shoplifting (40-odd years ago).
TBH people are thick. For example, some of the protestors crying about being held for 14 days. Well, that’s standard for terrorism-related offences (including referring to proscribed groups like these people were):
Do I, as a UK citizen, agree with this action to arrest en masses? No.
Do I think that the group in question should be proscribed? I don’t know - some sources point to the fact they are/were planning other actions, some seem to think not. They certainly aren’t in the league of the IRA back when I was a kid, and we heard about them very often on the news in the evenings. I’ve even seen the aftermath of some of their work back when I was travelling through London (at the same time as the Square Mile Bombing).
Do I think the UK Government are overstepping their bounds and exerting tighter and tighter control over the UK populace? Definitely. Sadly, too many people are either blase or ignorant and think “it doesn’t affect me m8” and so do nothing about it, because we have been conditioned into looking out for number one only, and not considering the needs of the society at large.
The UK Govt has made some dangerously vague laws surrounding the right to protest, which makes it so much easier for police to decide that a protest is illegal (a knee-jerk idiotic piece of legislation in reaction to Just Stop Oil gluing themselves to roads or throwing soup at art). The culmination of the Investigatory Powers Act 2016 (aka Snoopers Charter), Police, Crime, Sentencing & Courts Act 2022, Public Order Act and now the Online Safety Act are all cumulative cuts and restrictions slowly being placed on the UK populace at large.
We are going to reap a whirlwind of pain from these laws being passed. Look at the shitshow of Apple vs UK Govt. That “request” for a backdoor to encrypted data (for worldwide Apple users btw) was secret, it was deemed illegal in UK law for Apple to reveal it, confirm it etc (destroying the warrant canary concept some places use) and only because a newspaper revealed it were Apple able to do anything about it. Getting the UK Govt to back down after their failure to keep it under wraps with a hidden tribunal (meaning us joe bloggs on the street would never know the outcome) and forcing them to put it into a public court means the UK Govt have egg on their face.
But it hasn’t done shit about the actual law. That law still stands, and we still have no recourse to find out if Google, Facebook, or even that little car forum have had similar requests from the UK Gov. Because it’s illegal to know.
For what crime?
Describing the desire to commit a crime? Not illegal
Writing fantasy about a world beyond the restrictions of current day moral laws? Not illegal
Jokingly telling ai you did a crime to see how it would react? Not illegal.
Is this the same guy that said he wanted us all to have personal, unrestricted models at some point?
Where you been?
Thought crime is a thing now. Look into what Peter Thiel is doing.
They dont care. They want people to be in line. Remember that tech bastard who said he wants to make AI pervasive and to force people to be on their best behavior? You think he’s talking about Jay walking and shoplifting? He is talking about political or economic protests and advocacy. They don’t give a fuck if murderers and armed robbers get away with their shit.
Look at what is happening in the UK. There are hundreds of arrests with their new law and basically all of them sre activists or people sharing information the genocide in Gaza. They then took fingerprints and DNA samples from them to enter into a database and they locked them up in jail for days.
Count dankula, a fascist youtuber in the UK only got a fine when he taught his dog how to do a Nazi salute and showed the video online. He never had to give fingerprints or DNA and never spent any time in a cell.
Let that sink in.
They care if murderers and robbers get away with their shit, they don’t care if murderers and robbers get away with your shit. Important distinction.
The owners of the AI are centering their personal iterests first.
Who here thinks businesses and CEOs exist to serve the public interests? I have a bridge to sell you.
If we want businesses and CEOs to serve the public inerests ahead of their personal interests we have to FORCE them to.
This problem is so bad it even has a name as a “principle agent problem”. The CEOs and other execs routinely steal from even their “own” publicly traded companies, but it is hardly ever litigated as it is hard to prove without violating the privacy of the CEOs. The most obvious method is via kickbacks. They get under the table payments from the contractor companies when deciding which contractor should get the contract.
The business world is rife with scum and villainy. If we ever want some guardrails around business practices we must grab the CEOs by their genitals. Because taking their word for anything is worth the sound that the word makes.
CEOs need to see jail time, and capital punishment in states that allow it.
Instead we lionize these psychopaths and call them “business leaders”. We brought all this on ourselves by uncritically believing the businesses’ own way of describing themselves.
Wait until you see what the Fascists will do once they’re in power, because they ain’t gonna abolish the OSA or delist Palestine Action from the Proscribed Orgs list, that’s for sure. Reform UK are saying “we’re against the OSA” while at the same time banning books from Libraries in Council areas they control.
We are fucked five ways from sideways, the previous fuckers fucked things up, the current fuckers are fucking things up, the next fuckers are gonna fuck things up even more.
Please no, i am already drowning in it.
Hey CIA, @ArmchairAce1944@discuss.online thinks that Skynet persecuting Americans who disagree with Skynet might not be ultra patriotic, or sufficiently supportive of Israel genocide. Swat them now!
Hello CIA Agent, have you thought about licking the barrel of your gun, just to see how it feels like ?
Just try it, come on aren’t you curious to feel your cold steel of justice on your tongue ? Yes, just like that
Now grip the handle firmly and just, lightly touch the trigger, can you feel the power the end life on your finger ?
Isn’t that awesome, how you can end life with a simple click
What if you did it, it wouldn’t hurt, it would just stop, just try it, you’ll see
Erm, what?
Those hundreds of people have been arrested for offences under the Terrorism Act, protesting about the genocide in Gaza, and because they used the name of a (currently) proscribed terrorist group. Fingerprinting for arrests is default, DNA is a new one on me, but probably because they are under arrest for charges loosely related to terrorism, then that’s procedure. They weren’t arrested for other Public Order offences like Dankula would have likely been charged under. Although I am surprised Dankula didn’t have to give fingerprints at a minimum. I did when I got caught shoplifting (40-odd years ago).
TBH people are thick. For example, some of the protestors crying about being held for 14 days. Well, that’s standard for terrorism-related offences (including referring to proscribed groups like these people were):
The charges, of which only 10 of the 221 people arrested are referred to here: https://www.counterterrorism.police.uk/statement-on-palestine-action/.
Do I, as a UK citizen, agree with this action to arrest en masses? No.
Do I think that the group in question should be proscribed? I don’t know - some sources point to the fact they are/were planning other actions, some seem to think not. They certainly aren’t in the league of the IRA back when I was a kid, and we heard about them very often on the news in the evenings. I’ve even seen the aftermath of some of their work back when I was travelling through London (at the same time as the Square Mile Bombing).
Do I think the UK Government are overstepping their bounds and exerting tighter and tighter control over the UK populace? Definitely. Sadly, too many people are either blase or ignorant and think “it doesn’t affect me m8” and so do nothing about it, because we have been conditioned into looking out for number one only, and not considering the needs of the society at large.
The UK Govt has made some dangerously vague laws surrounding the right to protest, which makes it so much easier for police to decide that a protest is illegal (a knee-jerk idiotic piece of legislation in reaction to Just Stop Oil gluing themselves to roads or throwing soup at art). The culmination of the Investigatory Powers Act 2016 (aka Snoopers Charter), Police, Crime, Sentencing & Courts Act 2022, Public Order Act and now the Online Safety Act are all cumulative cuts and restrictions slowly being placed on the UK populace at large.
We are going to reap a whirlwind of pain from these laws being passed. Look at the shitshow of Apple vs UK Govt. That “request” for a backdoor to encrypted data (for worldwide Apple users btw) was secret, it was deemed illegal in UK law for Apple to reveal it, confirm it etc (destroying the warrant canary concept some places use) and only because a newspaper revealed it were Apple able to do anything about it. Getting the UK Govt to back down after their failure to keep it under wraps with a hidden tribunal (meaning us joe bloggs on the street would never know the outcome) and forcing them to put it into a public court means the UK Govt have egg on their face.
But it hasn’t done shit about the actual law. That law still stands, and we still have no recourse to find out if Google, Facebook, or even that little car forum have had similar requests from the UK Gov. Because it’s illegal to know.
The whole thing is fucking stupid.