A poll conducted by an Israeli organisation has revealed that the vast majority of Israeli Jews believe there are “no innocents” in the Gaza Strip. aChord, a research group linked to Hebrew University specialising in social psychology, said 76 percent of the Jewish public partially or fully agree that “there are no innocents in Gaza”.

The survey found that even among Israeli opposition voters, 47 percent fully supported the claim, while among Jewish opposition voters, a majority also agrees with the claim. Researcher Ron Gerlitz described the results of the survey as “difficult findings” that indicated attitudes that fed into acceptance of Israel’s ongoing genocide in Gaza.

Anti-Palestinian and anti-Arab sentiment in Israel has been growing in recent years, targeting both Palestinians in the occupied territories and Palestinian citizens of Israel. Last week, a Palestinian bus driver in Israel was attacked by a group of Jewish youths shouting “death to Arabs”, the latest incident in a string of racist attacks on Palestinian citizens of Israel. The bus driver, Mohammed Abd al-Hadi, told Ynet the incident happened after he asked the young passengers to stop screaming and vandalising the vehicle. “They insulted me and shouted racist sayings like ‘Jew - good; Arab - son of a removed’ and ‘death to Arabs’,” he said.

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    the problem is that the nazi-ish people are accusing the gazans of being nazis.

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      That’s why they need denazification. Much like the Germans they need to be given a thorough tour of the concentration camps.

      As a start.

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        americans need something similar and that has as much chance happening in the united states as it does isreal.

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        Why would they need to tour what they likely had an hand in building and running during their mandatory military duty? Instead of empathy you’d merely inspire nostalgia.

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          A lot of them simply haven’t actually seen what is happening or they think it’s all lies. Rubbing their noses in it would have at least some effect.

          But that’s just the start.

          They also need to have their government abolished and all their war criminals tried for their crimes.

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            A lot of them simply haven’t actually seen what is happening or they think it’s all lies.

            Unfortunately that is not true. The problem is that they do see it, and they like it. They applaud it, they get off on it.

            They organize parties to watch the bombings, they have hundreds of telegram channels proudly sharing some of the most horrific and psychopathic atrocities and congratulating themselves for it. They are ecstatic about how much terror and death and suffering they are inflicting. Genocidal rhetoric is completely and totally normalized in the “Israeli” mainstream. And that’s only the tip of the iceberg compared to what is shared and expressed in private.

            This is not a society that is unaware of what is happening. This is a society that knows exactly what it is doing, loves it, and in a bloodthirsty frenzy cheers for more, demands more. Even the Germans knew, despite their weaselly denials and claims of ignorance after the war, what was happening. It is impossible that they didn’t know, but at least back then their denials could be spun as semi-believable because there were no videos and livestreams of the atrocities. There is no such plausible denial today.

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              And what do they see? They see what the government wants them to see, they don’t see interviews with Palestinians or humanitarian workers or doctors. They need to turn off internal Israeli media and watch Al Jazeera or DemocracyNow for that. What they’re seeing is propaganda, not reality.

              They’re not unaware of what’s happening, per se, but they have been programmed by Israeli propaganda and only made aware of what Israel wants them to know. The start of deprogramming them would be to give them an unfiltered look at Gaza.

              And then the reeducation can begin. Don’t get me wrong, these sick freaks need serious intervention beyond just a tour of the concentration camp.

              But I really think they need that first step.

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                These are people who burn olive groves to make it impossible for Palestinians to live on their own land. Who go with assault rifles up to unarmed Palestinians, threaten them, assault them, kick them out of their homes to steal them and live in them. They are people who protest when the government tries to prosecute prison guards who rape Palestinian prisoners to death. They are people who share with each other videos of Palestinians being murdered as a form of entertainment. They post pictures of dead Palestinians to laugh and mock. They are people who not only feel safe but completely unashamed to say openly on TV and on social media that Palestinian babies should be killed before they grow up. They are people who go to loot aid trucks, to burn and destroy food for Gaza so that more Gazans will starve do death, and when they do this they take their children with them so that the children can joyfully participate in this “family activity”. This is not the government doing this, it is regular “civilians”.

                The start of deprogramming them would be to give them an unfiltered look at Gaza.

                They have an unfiltered look at Gaza, that’s the point. The IOF are the ones proudly filming themselves committing atrocities, looting and blowing up homes, sniping women and children, desecrating mosques, churches, even graves, and then they share and post these videos for Israeli society to see and cheer and celebrate and feel proud of what they are doing. Giving them a tour of a concentration camp where they tortured and murdered Palestinians is like giving them a victory lap.

                I repeat: They see what they are doing and they like what they are seeing. They feel justified and righteous, and even the ones who are not openly celebrating it or feel somewhat squeamish and prefer not to look are still happy that it is happening because it brings them one step closer to the complete ethnic cleansing and theft of the entire land of Palestine that they believe is their God given right.

                And yes this is a product of propaganda. Generations of propaganda that has produced an entire society of sadistic, genocidal psychopaths. But it’s not just the government. It starts in the home. It starts in the schools. And in the religious institutions. And the media. The entire society from top to bottom feeds them from birth with genocidal dehumanizing hate for Palestians and for Muslims as a whole, with racist supremacist propaganda, with the messianic “Greater Israel” narrative, and with a cult of perpetual victimhood that justifies any and all genocidal acts as “self-defense”.

                The first step isn’t to show them what they already support and know is happening (many of them having participated in it themselves). The first step is to comprehensively defeat them and dismantle the entire genocidal project.

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                  The first step isn’t to show them what they already support and know is happening (many of them having participated in it themselves). The first step is to comprehensively defeat them and dismantle the entire genocidal project.

                  Sorry, to clarify, I mean it’s the first step in their reeducation. This would presumably happen after Israel has been abolished and their Nazi army was defeated.