• Stez@sh.itjust.works
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    Ok dude while yes voting for the lesser evil is not the best option it’s still better than just letting the evil evil win. Until there is another candidate that has a real chance of winning that is not a Democrat or a Republican then voting for the lesser evil is our best shot. We may not have another election because Trump is in power or at the bear minimum these next 3 and a bit years are going to fucking suck the first year already has.

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      the lesser evil in this last election still meant doing a genocide.

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      The question then is, what is the lesser evil?

      And regardless of the answer, why is the “lesser evil” doing maximum genocide?

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      No, the best shot for positive change is abandoning electoralism and organizing directly. That’s the point of the meme.

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        So you just say fuck it for the time being and just watch people’s family’s be ripped apart because you didn’t vote for the lesser evil? (For this administration I know it wasn’t because of people not voting trump was just way more popular than Harris)

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          You know the lesser evil is also ripping families apart right? What part of organize directly did you not understand? You don’t have to just watch.

        • ☆ Yσɠƚԋσʂ ☆@lemmy.mlOP
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          It’s absolutely incredible how stunted people are in their political thinking that they’re unable to imagine any meaningful political action aside from pulling a lever every 4 years. The west is so cooked.

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            I can imagine more meaningful political action than pulling a lever every 4 years but you can both pull the lever and do the political action it doesn’t have to be one or the other

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                Where do you live that it’s not going to shit? There pretty much isn’t anywhere that isn’t trying to turn into a hell scape currently

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                  I live in a shithole western country too. The fact that my country is going to shit doesn’t preclude me from understanding why. Meanwhile, if you want to see a country that’s not going to shit just go look at China or Vietnam.

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      …yes voting for the lesser evil is not the best option it’s still better than just letting the evil evil win.

      Who said that we should just let the evil win? I don’t see that anywhere.

      It’s so weird to me how many people accept the binary that’s been handed to them. As though the ones that hand you that choice would ever let one of the options be to your advantage.

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        The meme is literally about not voting for the lesser evil (which is currently the only other actual option in our political system) that in turn means letting the evil win

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          which is currently the only other actual option in our political system

          Premise: false

          Isn’t it weird how continuing to do the things that got us here, isn’t fixing the problems that were created? I wonder why that could be. I guess we’ll never know.

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              I’m not sure that you’re gonna find “The Answer” that you want on here, but this is my attempt: Vote for someone that isn’t the lesser evil. Self Organize on a local level. Fight fascist supporters even when they pretend to be the good guys. Unionize.

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                I feel like we’d see a lot more progress if these types of comments were higher up in the chain, instead of buried at the end of a conversation. I see a lot of ridiculing people for not knowing this stuff, a la: https://xkcd.com/1053/

                I understand it’s the ignorant masses’ responsibilities to educate themselves. But like, we could all stand to make it easier on one another instead of jumping down each other’s throats all the time.

                Also this isn’t directed at you in particular, just in general. I just liked your response, and I wish more people would give answers like this.