Because some people still require windows for what ever reason and also it’s fun to resist corporate bullshit by spitting in their face.
Personally I switched to Bazzite for my gaming rigs and Mint for everything else, but I wont judge anyone who wants to stay on windows despite the hostility microsoft has for its user base and I say more power to them.
Those who stand defiant in the face of overwhelming odds are exactly the sort of folk I like.
I don’t judge, I just don’t understand. At this level, you need way more skills to keep your Windows account local than installing Linux with their GUI wizard. I understand some people need Windows professionally for Photoshop, but I guess the large majority doesn’t. If you read this Windows user, now is the time. Trust me, you will experience a level of freedom and performance you would have never thought of.
Hey I’m with you, at this point it seems like a losing battle to stay secure on windows and it will only get worse. But some people will want to keep using it for whatever reason. As long as I have the ability to assist them I will, freedom of choice is important even when the choice is a bad one.
I haven’t had any issues with any of the the games I play. For example recently I’ve been playing Driver San Francisco and all I had to do was tell my system to run it using proton and it plays, no weird configurations or workarounds needed. I have even had some games that were so buggy on windows they would randomly crash that ran like they were native on linux. RAGE for instance always gave weird memory errors on windows but on Bazzite it just worked. I am fairly anti social though so I don’t play any online games so I can’t vouch for those. I’ve heard older multiplayer games seem to work fine with a few work-arounds. If you look up guides on how to get things running on the Steam Deck they usually work for getting things running on Bazzite as well.
To be fair, the last multiplayer game I was massively into was Warframe, but haven’t been on that in years at this point (if No Mans Sky doesn’t count lol)
I’ll probably end up loading Bazzite just because gaming and general browsing online is all I use my rig for these days (I may branch into freecad at some point for the fun of it but we’ll burn that bridge when we get to it)
resist corporate bullshit by spitting in their face.
“Resist corporate bullshit by eschewing the free, non-corporate option – which, because it’s open, gets better the more people use it – in favor of continuing to use the exact same corporate product but with an abstruse, hacky workaround that 0.001% of the userbase will use and will probably be plugged by this time next week. That’ll show those corpo fucks who’s boss. ✊Ⓐ”
How is continuing to use their product (thus being farmed for telemetry and other revenues) defiant in any way?
The reality is you and others are afraid of change. There is no windows-only program I can’t run. Your defiance is futile and you’re the only one suffering, not Microsoft.
This isn’t even a Windows or Linux thing: Why the hell do you want Saudi Arabia and Jared Kusher* to have kernel-level access to your machine? Why, why is that worth it for just a game?
The last time I try to run valorant on non standard windows 11 install, the anticheat refused to run. I’m not playing valorant, just helping friend with tehnical issue.
I’d probably play BF6 and I do enjoy Apex Legends, but not enough to run Windows. Photoshop is great, but GIMP meets my non-professional needs. I’m not an engineer so AutoCAD isn’t a professional requirement and I can fix 3d prints or plan landscaping in freecad.
But, I can’t make Micrsoft stop enabling telemetry on my computer, inserting ads in my start menu or giving AI access to my entire system. I know there are tools to disable these things, I used them. I know the workaround to make local users, I know how to remove the AI integrations, I know how to use group policy to prevent the re-enabling of some items.
I don’t want to have to fight my computer in order to use it. I want it to do exactly what I want and nothing else. Linux lets me do it and that is more important than a few FPSs
Everyone gets to make that choice. Well, except the people who can’t upgrade to Windows 11… for them it’s Linux or joining a botnet at some time in the near future.
I get it but let me give you an example of the sort of thing Linux is dealing with:
I have a nephew who wanted a PC, and had a small budget (they where 11 at the time and I was not going to let them pay) so I used some parts around and made a not so bad mint machine. It worked very well but can not play fortnight (not an issue with mint or the hardware) or other such anti-cheat games. The child was ok with it but his parents got mad at me as to why I would not just “be normal” and put a real operating system on the machine. They tried to tell my nephew that he should not use his PC until they can bring it to someone that can “fix” it by putting windows on it (they are kinda asshats). Lucky for my nephew the place they took the PC said the same thing I did and that it would not run as well with windows on it, but would do it if they wanted (they said no when they got the cost).
So the PC gets used and is enjoyed (it was the nephews birthday present from me), and used by his father as much as him. But all this time I am getting constant complaints about the “weird stuff” I forced on them, and that one day they will get him a “real” computer. Keep in mind my brother has a PC that is running windows that has more bloat and malware then you would think possible at this time (I think why he kept using his son’s) that was about the same in hardware (1060, am4 3600ish, 8 gigs of ram sort of machines). The mint PC was clearly better, and when their child started to point out how much more time my brother spent on his Linux computer then his own my brother just happened to “spill” a whole glass of water directly into his son’s computer. Then he hid the PC away and just blamed it not working on the “bad software” that it was running, and how it was a “trash” machine anyway. (I did get it back eventually, replaced the board and shipped it back to my nephew who is now using it again).
So the point of the story is this, would you if you had to deal with users (and lets assume you are not related to them) like this put Linux on their machines or just not want to deal with them and put a ripped and custom windows on it?
In contrast, I set my nephew up with Linux Mint, and he is now slowly converting the rest of his family to open source solutions.
My understanding is that they keep having conversations about privacy news, and he keeps knowing a solution, which sometimes is Android or Linux based. So now his parents will ask me “Is it true the XY protects against YZ and is free?”
True, but also the way google is going soon it will not be able to resolve any issues at all. Just the other week I caught it’s AI results saying that DC and AC where interchangeable and just semantics…
I cannot relate in any way. I would tell these people to figure it out themselves and that they’re ignorant and ungrateful. You’re also a very nice person for putting up with that.
Its often the worst part of working in the industry, I used to have to deal with these sort of people professionally (investment bankers are the worst). I am just pointing out that sometimes the solution is just to do the work and move on, and that is how we get to where we are.
If that story is at all true, I feel so bad for that kid regarding so much more than the OS on his computer. I honestly hope you have thought about the potential future circumstance that you need to take on an abused teenager.
Science has newly discovered a measurable personality trait, where a person acts against facts and logic if they feel they are winning against an enemy (even a non tangible enemy).
It explains why US Christians would vote in a pedo rapist felon, because they think they are winning something.
The reality is you and others are afraid of change. There is no windows-only program I can’t run.
Well I’m glad you represent everybody.
People who need to use software like the Adobe suite professionally? They should just abandon their whole career and not use Adobe. Because being unemployed will really show em.
Every time this topic comes up, you’d think that all Windows users are all professional graphic designers who use AutoCAD and also play Valorant professionally.
Ok but what if someone breaks into my house and is holding a shotgun to my wife’s head and is telling me to run windows. What then huh? Linux people think everything is so easy.
Because some people still require windows for what ever reason and also it’s fun to resist corporate bullshit by spitting in their face.
Personally I switched to Bazzite for my gaming rigs and Mint for everything else, but I wont judge anyone who wants to stay on windows despite the hostility microsoft has for its user base and I say more power to them.
Those who stand defiant in the face of overwhelming odds are exactly the sort of folk I like.
I don’t judge, I just don’t understand. At this level, you need way more skills to keep your Windows account local than installing Linux with their GUI wizard. I understand some people need Windows professionally for Photoshop, but I guess the large majority doesn’t. If you read this Windows user, now is the time. Trust me, you will experience a level of freedom and performance you would have never thought of.
Hey I’m with you, at this point it seems like a losing battle to stay secure on windows and it will only get worse. But some people will want to keep using it for whatever reason. As long as I have the ability to assist them I will, freedom of choice is important even when the choice is a bad one.
Heard good things about Bazzite, how does it work out with .exe game files off the internet etc?
Ive got a boat load of games that aren’t on steam/are from GOG or itch and run as their own files instead of being run off a service
I haven’t had any issues with any of the the games I play. For example recently I’ve been playing Driver San Francisco and all I had to do was tell my system to run it using proton and it plays, no weird configurations or workarounds needed. I have even had some games that were so buggy on windows they would randomly crash that ran like they were native on linux. RAGE for instance always gave weird memory errors on windows but on Bazzite it just worked. I am fairly anti social though so I don’t play any online games so I can’t vouch for those. I’ve heard older multiplayer games seem to work fine with a few work-arounds. If you look up guides on how to get things running on the Steam Deck they usually work for getting things running on Bazzite as well.
To be fair, the last multiplayer game I was massively into was Warframe, but haven’t been on that in years at this point (if No Mans Sky doesn’t count lol)
I’ll probably end up loading Bazzite just because gaming and general browsing online is all I use my rig for these days (I may branch into freecad at some point for the fun of it but we’ll burn that bridge when we get to it)
Well good news freecad has a flatpak so its super easy to install on linux. you might even find it in the built in package manager. https://flathub.org/en/apps/org.freecad.FreeCAD
“Resist corporate bullshit by eschewing the free, non-corporate option – which, because it’s open, gets better the more people use it – in favor of continuing to use the exact same corporate product but with an abstruse, hacky workaround that 0.001% of the userbase will use and will probably be plugged by this time next week. That’ll show those corpo fucks who’s boss. ✊Ⓐ”
How is continuing to use their product (thus being farmed for telemetry and other revenues) defiant in any way?
The reality is you and others are afraid of change. There is no windows-only program I can’t run. Your defiance is futile and you’re the only one suffering, not Microsoft.
Can you run Battlefield 6?
Valorant?
Apex Legends?
Rainbow Six: Siege?
Fortnite?
GTA V?
RDR2?
The last 2, you can
This isn’t even a Windows or Linux thing: Why the hell do you want Saudi Arabia and Jared Kusher* to have kernel-level access to your machine? Why, why is that worth it for just a game?
*I really wish I was joking with this part
The last time I try to run valorant on non standard windows 11 install, the anticheat refused to run. I’m not playing valorant, just helping friend with tehnical issue.
I am not interested in playing any of those games.
Good for you! Why demonize people who are though?
I don’t know, you should ask the people that are doing that.
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Ok, cool. Some people are. This is a quick list of some popular reasons why people might not be able to just run Linux.
I’d probably play BF6 and I do enjoy Apex Legends, but not enough to run Windows. Photoshop is great, but GIMP meets my non-professional needs. I’m not an engineer so AutoCAD isn’t a professional requirement and I can fix 3d prints or plan landscaping in freecad.
But, I can’t make Micrsoft stop enabling telemetry on my computer, inserting ads in my start menu or giving AI access to my entire system. I know there are tools to disable these things, I used them. I know the workaround to make local users, I know how to remove the AI integrations, I know how to use group policy to prevent the re-enabling of some items.
I don’t want to have to fight my computer in order to use it. I want it to do exactly what I want and nothing else. Linux lets me do it and that is more important than a few FPSs
Everyone gets to make that choice. Well, except the people who can’t upgrade to Windows 11… for them it’s Linux or joining a botnet at some time in the near future.
So 11 is pretty much “Windows 10, except everything is Edge.”
And AI is in everything
cool
Yes.
on windows, or a console.
I can run any software designed for Linux or Windows. Period.
If a package doesn’t function, it’s because the developers arbitrarily decided to disable it for capitalist reasons. Not because it won’t work.
So the answer to “can Linux run X game made for Windows” is always yes. Always.
So. No then. You either are holding onto a zero day workaround for their anti-cheat OR the answer is no.
It’s neat to try to shift the answer so that you can still say yes but also no.
I get it but let me give you an example of the sort of thing Linux is dealing with:
I have a nephew who wanted a PC, and had a small budget (they where 11 at the time and I was not going to let them pay) so I used some parts around and made a not so bad mint machine. It worked very well but can not play fortnight (not an issue with mint or the hardware) or other such anti-cheat games. The child was ok with it but his parents got mad at me as to why I would not just “be normal” and put a real operating system on the machine. They tried to tell my nephew that he should not use his PC until they can bring it to someone that can “fix” it by putting windows on it (they are kinda asshats). Lucky for my nephew the place they took the PC said the same thing I did and that it would not run as well with windows on it, but would do it if they wanted (they said no when they got the cost).
So the PC gets used and is enjoyed (it was the nephews birthday present from me), and used by his father as much as him. But all this time I am getting constant complaints about the “weird stuff” I forced on them, and that one day they will get him a “real” computer. Keep in mind my brother has a PC that is running windows that has more bloat and malware then you would think possible at this time (I think why he kept using his son’s) that was about the same in hardware (1060, am4 3600ish, 8 gigs of ram sort of machines). The mint PC was clearly better, and when their child started to point out how much more time my brother spent on his Linux computer then his own my brother just happened to “spill” a whole glass of water directly into his son’s computer. Then he hid the PC away and just blamed it not working on the “bad software” that it was running, and how it was a “trash” machine anyway. (I did get it back eventually, replaced the board and shipped it back to my nephew who is now using it again).
So the point of the story is this, would you if you had to deal with users (and lets assume you are not related to them) like this put Linux on their machines or just not want to deal with them and put a ripped and custom windows on it?
In contrast, I set my nephew up with Linux Mint, and he is now slowly converting the rest of his family to open source solutions.
My understanding is that they keep having conversations about privacy news, and he keeps knowing a solution, which sometimes is Android or Linux based. So now his parents will ask me “Is it true the XY protects against YZ and is free?”
It’s been a pretty cool thing to watch.
Oof. Those parents are horrible. At least you tried to do the right think for the little dude.
Unfortunately they are not uncommon, adults that are more childish then their children at times. I try to help but there is only so much I can do.
There are no upcoming kernel patches that will fix the problem of people being ungrateful assholes.
I mean there is bound to be one that bricks their machine, so I have that at least.
The trick is to always install their system using btrfs-dkms.
It’s guaranteed to break in a way that Google cannot resolve.
True, but also the way google is going soon it will not be able to resolve any issues at all. Just the other week I caught it’s AI results saying that DC and AC where interchangeable and just semantics…
I cannot relate in any way. I would tell these people to figure it out themselves and that they’re ignorant and ungrateful. You’re also a very nice person for putting up with that.
Its often the worst part of working in the industry, I used to have to deal with these sort of people professionally (investment bankers are the worst). I am just pointing out that sometimes the solution is just to do the work and move on, and that is how we get to where we are.
Lawyers are even worse T.T
If that story is at all true, I feel so bad for that kid regarding so much more than the OS on his computer. I honestly hope you have thought about the potential future circumstance that you need to take on an abused teenager.
Oh I do what I can, but those kids (3 of them) are not going to have a good time.
Is your brother a Trumpy?
We are not american, and no he is (or was at one point) a card carrying communist (a really really bad one).
I was just trying to understand how someone can be that dumb and intolerant.
Science has newly discovered a measurable personality trait, where a person acts against facts and logic if they feel they are winning against an enemy (even a non tangible enemy). It explains why US Christians would vote in a pedo rapist felon, because they think they are winning something.
So we’re basically still lizard brained. I want to sue the Darwin estate. Evolution failed.
People like him are sadly common, don’t seem to need a reason to be asshats.
Well I’m glad you represent everybody.
People who need to use software like the Adobe suite professionally? They should just abandon their whole career and not use Adobe. Because being unemployed will really show em.
if you’re being paid to run windows software… that’s a little different.
Every time this topic comes up, you’d think that all Windows users are all professional graphic designers who use AutoCAD and also play Valorant professionally.
Lol.
I can run adobe software in Linux.
Ok but what if someone breaks into my house and is holding a shotgun to my wife’s head and is telling me to run windows. What then huh? Linux people think everything is so easy.
I admit defeat.