• Afaithfulnihilist@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      22 hours ago

      This one policy is better in this extremely superficial description.

      Neither country has workers rights on par with Europe for example.

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              17 hours ago

              Hey, if you cool with human rights violations and state sanctioned murder that is on you.

              • vagrancyand@sh.itjust.works
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                17 hours ago

                I’m not okay with human rights violations, which is why I support jury trial enabled capital punishment for those committing human rights abuses, like every CEO China has executed.

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                    16 hours ago

                    Not really, no. While an ideal utopia might successfully eliminate psychopathy and all related disorders falling under that umbrella, or at the very least totally prevent its affects on society, we are not in that ideal utopia and likely won’t reach there as we don’t know what genetics precisely cause it (mainly because rich people do not contribute DNA for research.)

                    Until we can either safeguard society from its affects or eliminate that particular defect from humanity, whichever is possible, we cannot eliminate capital punishment. There will always be another day, and normal humans are quick to forget and forgive, not to mention just be miseducated on the subject. Just see the deification of figures like Henry Ford, Ted Bundy, or Henry Kissinger for examples. While all but the last had their reputation resurrected long after their death, Kissinger shows this reputation can be changed or hidden from the masses in real time during their lifetime.

                    Life imprisonment then becomes a Sword of Damocles instead of a solution for these people that objectively, by all current scientific research, cannot physically change what they are or how they think and act. Eventually that Sword will fall, the public will forget, forgive, or be misled about their crimes, and they and their fans and enablers will be free to do their crimes again.

                    I agree capital punishment is not ideal, no state should have that power, but then again there shouldn’t be states, period; but as there are and we have to live until there’s not… we must have a solution for those that harm masses of workers.

                    That solution is their crimes being laid bare, a public representative lawyer having every chance to defend them fairly, and a jury panel of either judges or the public deciding their fate; allowing the state to execute the will of the people before the people take matters into their own hands — which is another point to be made; These people will die if they continue their crimes. The people will enact justice with or without the state, and for all the reasons above imprisonment is not seen as justice to those wronged badly enough.

                    It is much better to have a system handling this than relying on heroes like Luigi Mangione, may his innocence be held up in court, to handle what needs to be handled.

    • humanamerican@lemmy.zip
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      18 hours ago

      If those policies aren’t enforced it hardly matters. 996 is technically illegal there but last I checked some of the richest companies in China were still practicing it.

      Happy to be shown evidence to the contrary, but I don’t think the plight of Chinese workers is better than Americans, and certainly not Europeans.

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      21 hours ago

      Did you even hear about America’s Apple’s Foxconn factory in China where the factory has nets on the windows to stop the frequent ‘inconvenient’ problem of cheap labor workers attempts of window jump suicides, for example? Co-operative structure (worker-owned) companies have more likelihood to have more human policies to, uh, themselves, than ponzi scheme corporations. Despite a fancy socialist (‘communist’) sounding title of government structure, Russia and China both took International Monetary Fund (IMF) loans, with their conditions of worker rights suffocation policies and market concentration monopolization policies. America’s and China’s feudalist monopolist billionaires have a lot more proximity of ideology than either of their propaganda machines has acknowledged so far.

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        20 hours ago

        Yeah, I know about all of that, and they still have a better working environment than Americans.

        As China has prospered, they have managed to reduce most poverty in their nation. As we have prospered under MAGA, Americans’ quality of life is decreasing, and the slide is increasing. China is going the right way, we are definitely going the wrong way.

        I’m not saying that China doesn’t have issues, but they are still committed to the betterment of their country’s future, while American leaders are ONLY concerned with exploiting our country and it’s people to the absolute maximum degree. They don’t want to leave one illegal penny on the table.

        I don’t want to be China, but I don’t want to be MAGAMERICA either.

        • Doomsider@lemmy.world
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          19 hours ago

          Typical Chinese factory workers have 10-12 hour shifts 6 days a week. Many workers literally live at the factory. Sounds way better than the US or Europe.