Trump probably lost both the primary in 2016 and general elections both times, but we will never know for sure because most of the vote counts were not counted by humans in easy to understand ways.
Real democracies have ways to count ballots everyone is ok with, recounts are allowed. Witnesses standing in for each candidate see the counting take place and can ask for a do over.
Here, in the USA, many people see such things as quant and old fashioned; most votes are counted in literally mysterious ways; by things run by oligarchs or the very people invested in winning. And recounts are often not allowed. And often when recounts are done it’s just asking the above companies if things are ok.
Things are not ok as shown by United Nations tests to detect mass fraud, and exit polls as well as polling data before elections.
But anyone trying to have a discussion about this is automatically not part of mainstream politics. I remember huge tech conventions about this subject I am talking about ; but all were soundly ignored by all parties and mainstream media.
In fact, the price of participation in mainstream politics in real life or social media, is turning a blind eye to all this.
And that is how you get a Trump. Followed by lame controlled opposition, followed by another Trump.
I think most Americans do not understand democracy is both voting and making sure that vote is accurately counted. In some states it is.
But honestly, I don’t think Americans as a people can do democracy.
Trump probably lost both the primary in 2016 and general elections both times, but we will never know for sure because most of the vote counts were not counted by humans in easy to understand ways.
Real democracies have ways to count ballots everyone is ok with, recounts are allowed. Witnesses standing in for each candidate see the counting take place and can ask for a do over.
Here, in the USA, many people see such things as quant and old fashioned; most votes are counted in literally mysterious ways; by things run by oligarchs or the very people invested in winning. And recounts are often not allowed. And often when recounts are done it’s just asking the above companies if things are ok.
Things are not ok as shown by United Nations tests to detect mass fraud, and exit polls as well as polling data before elections.
But anyone trying to have a discussion about this is automatically not part of mainstream politics. I remember huge tech conventions about this subject I am talking about ; but all were soundly ignored by all parties and mainstream media.
In fact, the price of participation in mainstream politics in real life or social media, is turning a blind eye to all this.
And that is how you get a Trump. Followed by lame controlled opposition, followed by another Trump.
I think most Americans do not understand democracy is both voting and making sure that vote is accurately counted. In some states it is.
But honestly, I don’t think Americans as a people can do democracy.