Not defending that fool, but, " plenty of people can still do it!" is a pretty fucking brainless tangential excuse and no reason at all. For anything.
That’s the same shit logic people use when discussing what should be made illegal. “We cannot regulate corporations because plenty would still be able to do bad things!”
OK then… Let’s ignore the accelerating economic crisis because some people still have money! Hooray! Everything’s easy when you can just ignore problems!
Affordable to whom? People who have high enough paying jobs to actually save and are also able to take time off from work? That’s “plenty” of people, sure. But they’re all assholes. At least here in the U.S.
It sounds like you’re using a lot of terms created specifically to divide the working class. I agree that an engineer making $250k is working class, as long as they legitimately have no passive income, which at that level of pay, you probably have some passive income, right? Maybe you’re not a landlord but you’re probably investing and seeing returns form that, right? You may even have some healthy crypto holdings that you don’t talk about on the internet but won’t shut up about in real life.
Yes, I am the “working poor”. That’s what my parents were, that what all of my siblings are, and that’s what I will be for the rest of my life. There’s no way out. And for that reason, I am obviously bitter towards people who will be able to achieve my lifelong dream of owning a home and retiring, because those people most likely grew up in a home that was owned by their parents and now have parents who are comfortably retiring, and therefore have no real appreciation for what they have.
People who have high enough paying jobs to actually save and are also able to take time off from work? That’s “plenty” of people, sure. But they’re all assholes
I’m not dividing anyone, these are the generally accepted terms for people’s income brackets and method of earning income.
You are lashing out at working class people for daring to do something easily obtainable for the majority of working class people.
You regularly comment on the economy and politics yet you don’t even understand who your peers are meant to be in the struggle against income inequality.
It’s not a struggle between cashier and doctor.
It’s the working class and the owner class that are in different lanes of a K shaped economy.
Owning a few shares doesn’t make your income passive. Shares are the best long term vehicle for retirement savings and people should be building investments their whole working life so they can afford to retire.
It’s the way you view the world when you grew up dirt poor, and continue to be dirt poor despite doing everything that you were “supposed” to do to have a comfortable life and realize that you will never own a home or retire (literally the only things I’ve ever wanted since childhood) because you’re in that perfect sweet spot where your COL will always outpace you wage increases, even if you switch to a better job every 2-3 years. Am I bitter? Yes. But I’m not going to pretend that people that make upper six figures, own multiple cars and homes are in the same class as I am just to make myself feel better.
Oh fuck off, going on holiday is something plenty of people can afford.
Not defending that fool, but, " plenty of people can still do it!" is a pretty fucking brainless tangential excuse and no reason at all. For anything.
That’s the same shit logic people use when discussing what should be made illegal. “We cannot regulate corporations because plenty would still be able to do bad things!”
OK then… Let’s ignore the accelerating economic crisis because some people still have money! Hooray! Everything’s easy when you can just ignore problems!
Affordable to whom? People who have high enough paying jobs to actually save and are also able to take time off from work? That’s “plenty” of people, sure. But they’re all assholes. At least here in the U.S.
You would’ve had a point if you didn’t label them all assholes.
I still had a point. People just don’t like being called out
That’s a very interesting way to view the world.
There are a surprising number of these losers on lemmy.
They think having literally any money, any financial stability or disposable income makes you the ‘ultra rich’ enemy.
Owning a car is too rich for many of them, forget owning a house, and if your net worth ever exceeds a million dollars you need the guillotine.
Then they’re shocked the working class aren’t on board with them.
Once upon a time, a net worth of a million was a fortune. Now, it’s basically the minimum for a comfortable retirement.
Inflation has made millionaires working class.
If people that can save up a million dollars for a comfortable retirement are working class, what class are the rest of us then?
Working class simply means someone who works for a living. They’re not earning passive income from capital.
An engineer earning $250k a year is working class.
They’ll work for the majority of their healthy lifespan and likely retire with a net worth in the millions unless they’re squandering everything.
If you don’t fall into the category where you actually work then you’re the unemployed poor, not working class.
If you work for fuck all income (below the poverty line despite working) you’re the working poor.
They’re fact you need this explained should really highlight how little you know and understand about economics, employment and wealth.
It sounds like you’re using a lot of terms created specifically to divide the working class. I agree that an engineer making $250k is working class, as long as they legitimately have no passive income, which at that level of pay, you probably have some passive income, right? Maybe you’re not a landlord but you’re probably investing and seeing returns form that, right? You may even have some healthy crypto holdings that you don’t talk about on the internet but won’t shut up about in real life.
Yes, I am the “working poor”. That’s what my parents were, that what all of my siblings are, and that’s what I will be for the rest of my life. There’s no way out. And for that reason, I am obviously bitter towards people who will be able to achieve my lifelong dream of owning a home and retiring, because those people most likely grew up in a home that was owned by their parents and now have parents who are comfortably retiring, and therefore have no real appreciation for what they have.
I’m not dividing anyone, these are the generally accepted terms for people’s income brackets and method of earning income.
You are lashing out at working class people for daring to do something easily obtainable for the majority of working class people.
You regularly comment on the economy and politics yet you don’t even understand who your peers are meant to be in the struggle against income inequality.
It’s not a struggle between cashier and doctor.
It’s the working class and the owner class that are in different lanes of a K shaped economy.
Owning a few shares doesn’t make your income passive. Shares are the best long term vehicle for retirement savings and people should be building investments their whole working life so they can afford to retire.
It’s the way you view the world when you grew up dirt poor, and continue to be dirt poor despite doing everything that you were “supposed” to do to have a comfortable life and realize that you will never own a home or retire (literally the only things I’ve ever wanted since childhood) because you’re in that perfect sweet spot where your COL will always outpace you wage increases, even if you switch to a better job every 2-3 years. Am I bitter? Yes. But I’m not going to pretend that people that make upper six figures, own multiple cars and homes are in the same class as I am just to make myself feel better.