• Grail@multiverse.soulism.net
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    14 hours ago

    We didn’t need cars 200 years ago and we don’t need them today. Has our technology turned our entire society into a finely tuned swiss watch with no tolerance for change? No! We have better technology than ever for living without cars. Look at this stuff:

    It’s easier than ever for town planners to design a small rural town that doesn’t need cars.

    The only cars I support are fire trucks and ambulances.

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      3 hours ago

      If you pay people who deliver that way an affordable wage, it’s not cost effective in today’s world.

      Not having roads only work when slaves are involved and you don’t care about human life. We’ve moved past that point in history, mostly. But some people always seem to point to it and try to say it’s better. This is the people here.

      Yes there is absolutely other ways to move stuff, no one is saying their isn’t, but are you prepared to pay $50 for coffee or to have nothing other than corn and corn byproducts to eat….? Because that’s the world without the benefit and efficiency of mass hauling on roads. And sure, use slaves to still deliver, because that’s the only way it’s affordable for you. It’s not how the worlds worked for a long ass time now. That’s all we are trying to get people like you to comprehend. If you support slaves so you can have your coffee, you’ve lost it.

      Roads make things more affordable, when people are paid a living a wage instead of being in poverty or slaves, yes there is other ways to move stuff, but… yeah see above lmfao.

      Do you think people would rather haul stuff out of the mountains on foot? Or just have a central place to drop it, they could probably haul out 5x as much in a single day. Instead of 2 baskets. Because one is only doable with roads. But sure, work that guy to the bone so you can have cheap coffee. It’s called the scale of economics, it’s been known for centuries at this point, but when you don’t need to pay….

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        1 hour ago

        You’re full of shit. 300 years ago, My neighbourhood didn’t have roads, slaves, or even money. Everyone was equal.

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          Were they free to go elsewhere? Could they without the transportation to make it? How many died while doing so? How could they afford it or afford something like a bike or a boat? Did they even know other places existed and what was there? It probably wasn’t the best life either.

          There’s more than way to be slaved to a place, if you don’t make “money”, or can’t move elsewhere because various reasons. You’re not free.

          You’re not looking at this broad enough. You’re too fixated on yourself. The rose colored glasses some people have of the past is just astounding.

          And without money, what are you? A slave, you contradict yourself in your own statements. Every community has a currency of some sort, everyone’s time is valued, or you are the textbook definition of a slave dude.

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            10 minutes ago

            Look, just duckgo Australia and all your questions will be answered. We had a great communist roadless economy with lots of freedom and peace and equality and happiness here.