• CareHare@sh.itjust.works
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    1 day ago

    I’m not from either of those countries, are you a person that likes to put words in other people’s mouths? 'Cause it sure as fuck sounds like you do.

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      1 day ago

      I tend to speculate negatively when people hurl unfounded insults without disclosing the reason for their perspective.

      I encouraged people to not assume that their local regulation’s are “better than the USA” because the same greed that causes so much waste in the USA is also present in literally every human country. And you decided that this meant my country doesn’t have consumer protection of any kind.

      If it makes you feel better, tell me what country you are from and I’ll take the time to look for an appropriate example of your country fucking up in a way that wouldn’t happen in the USA.

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        Belgium, good luck. I don’t need to know what country you’re from. Your ignorance is telling (but it’s also bliss, so lucky you).

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          You’re right, it’s hard to find distinct history for a middle European country that was a footnote for most of your small and young country’s history.

          But the internet provides.

          Even if we exclude both your country’s precursor states and the various wrongs attributsble to the European Union you were substantially responsible for, Belgium:

          • has a literal king
          • didnt ban slavery until decades after the USA
          • lagged similarly in gay rights (albeit you’re easily on par with the bluest stars in the USA)
          • let your king annex part of a foreign continent as a subservient colony (and kept that colony until the 1960s!)

          And, while I’m neither a lawyer nor sufficiently fluent in French or German to read your laws directly, it sure as fuck looks like you’ve got the same sort of repressive defamation laws that let JK Rowling bully Amnesry UK into apolgizjng for accuratky describing her.

          http://legaldb.freemedia.at/legal-database/belgium/

          Based on your country’s recent “hard-right” swing, you might acthally see your own neo-autocrat soon, who would absolutely weaponize those laws if they haven’t already started.

          If truth and honesty are not both separately prefect defenses to accusations of defamation, you don’t have free speech in the ways that actually matter.

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            1 day ago

            So you did a quick shit-GTP search and now you know more about my country’s history than I learnt in 6 years of history, about my country?

            Wow. True American.

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              23 hours ago

              Is that supposed to be a rebuttal, or did your “6 years of history” not include how to structure an argument?

              I told you it’d be simple to find something your country did worse than the USA, and I found five plausible examples, including one of the glaring eurozone issues I’d suggested before. I’m actually surprised that “slavery” and “LGBTQ rights” are plausibly on there.

              I would hope that a learned historian such as yourself would know better than to assume that their country is uniqjely benevolent, but people who know that usually don’t start mounting off about foreign countries and then start sputtering when someone points out their own country’s failings.

              Was your educational study an academic focus or just the primary education propaganda that every industrialized country in the world feeds their citizens?

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                13 hours ago

                I never said I was a historian. I just had 6 years of history like everyone gets in our educational system. You keep assuming, my man. We actually learn a lot about the black days in our country’s (small) history. Our schools aren’t tainted (yet). Don’t know about the US of A though, but what I’m hearing through the grape vine is not making me very excited for your future academics.

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                  6 hours ago

                  If you aren’t a historian and “don’t know about the US of A”, then like I said at the start of this exchange you don’t know what you’re talking about.

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                    At least I can admit I don’t know everything about the country I’m not living in. You’re another story on the other hand.

                    Might you believe I actually know more about my own country than you do? The points you make in a previous post are laughable:

                    Lagged in gay rights? Did you check when we had our first gay prime minister, when did the USA have his first gay president? Did you have a transgender minister of health yet as well? Don’t assume the USA is as progressive as Europe, parts of it might be, but Northwestern Europe is far more progressive.

                    We have a king, yes, but do you even know what that means in our government? It’s just for show, they have no power, they only suck some wealth and in turn provide prestige and sometimes some international economic value. We used to have Leopold II, bad man, he actually owned Congo personally, wasn’t even part of Belgium until he couldn’t keep his colony profitable and had to give it up. Not saying my ancestors hands are completely clean, but this little detail is often forgotten.

                    I’m not a historian, but I have a healthy interest in the history of Europe.

                    So far you’ve only proven The Dunning Kruger effect to some degree.