• Narri N. (they/them)@lemmy.ml
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    10 hours ago

    defending fascist, far-right states are we? the carnage must continue, unnumered more innocents must suffer and die before the modern liberal can admit they’ve been lied to by their own governments? i know by experience that it sucks to own up that you’ve been had (i used to be a unquestioning slava ukrainer) but admitting the problem exists is the first step towards fixing it. in the fight against imperialism both Ukraine('s current government) and Israel (the entire settler-colonial project) are deeply on the side of imperialism, as well as being absolutely fascist states. neither can bring peace for their people or anyone else involved, because they both only exist to provide war for US imperial ambitions.

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      5 hours ago

      That’s an interesting perspective, thanks for sharing.

      As for me, I oppose fascism. I wish Ukraine to remain a sovereign nation.

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        Ukrainian sovereignty is best achieved from revolutionary defeatism to overthrow the Banderite government. A socialist Ukraine that stands against the infestation of western capital would better be in control of its own interests, and would solve Russia’s security concerns that led to it entering the Ukrainian Civil War. At the present rate, what will remain of Ukraine will be a thoroughly dependent rump state being siphoned of its natural resources by the west.

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        2 hours ago

        Which is it?

        Ukrainian Nationalism has been a fascist project since its inception, you can’t oppose fascism and support Banderites.

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          It’s also been a CIA and NATO supported nationalist project since the start of the Cold War to the present day.

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        4 hours ago

        Same here, though imo first the Ukrainians would need to kick out the US/NATO-backed fascists that are pretending to be a sovereign and functioning state.