This is nothing new. Liberals have always done this throughout history. They put all the blame on individuals to cover up the root cause of these constantly reoccuring wars and genocides.
Netanyahu isn’t the problem.
Israel is. The West is. Imperialism is. Capitalism is.
By: @commie______central
Not only Netanyahu, there is also the Zionist parties and the opression of all not-zionist media in Israel. A hugh part of the population are not even aware of the genocide. Same as in the US 30% still vote for Trump, because they are in a bubble from mass media like FOX News. The problem is always the ignorance and fears created by certain colectives in own benefits. Dictatorships and faschism wouldn’t work with an educated and correct informed population.
I thought it was in the 80s percentage wise?
When you thought Netanyahu is the problem, but then check other Israeli political parties, and turns out he’s among the least extreme. And has better approval ratings than Hitler had towards the end of the war.
Even Gadi Eisenkot - Israel’s most likely next prime minister, whose party is apparently centrist - says any plans of a two-state solution are, quote, ‘delusions’, and openly supports the so-called settlers.
The more you learn about Israel, the better you’ll see there’s no hope for it.
Israels occupation of Gaza and the west bank is wrong.
But, where are you getting this 90% figure? Highest I could find was 65%. Not that any support is acceptable.
Or are we just taking instagram memes on face value?
It feels like this meme is really trying to encourage hate for people just based on where they were born.
most israelis were born in europe, so nah, youre projecting maybe?
This whole discussion is about the lack of source for given statistics.
You might be right, but I dont know where youre getting your info.
A majority of the Israeli public, at 78%, expresses high trust in the IDF, showing no significant change compared to the last three months (75%–77%), since peaking at 83% during the war against Iran (Operation Rising Lion) in June 2025. Among the Jewish public, trust in the IDF remains very high at 90% in this survey, compared to 86% previously, while among the Arab public it remains very low at 32%.
https://www.inss.org.il/publication/survey-october-2025/
The 90% number seems to be Jewish Israelis as opposed to Israelis in general.
Thank you for the source!
Thats aweful.
“Look guys, I think the apartheid and genocide is not great, but it’s wrong to say it’s not the sole fault of Netanyahu, with the rest of Israel being innocent and good!”
Never said any Israeli was good.
Just asked for a source for the stat provided in the OP. Given such source that 9/10 support the IDF. I could easily agree thats it would be safe to assume that any given Israeli is faschist.
So you think the rest of their occupation is okay? I can see where you’re confused then.
My gripe was with a post that provided unbacked statistics seemingly to encourage hate based on country of origin.
No need to be passive aggressive, I didn’t justify any occupation in my comment.
I believe you as well are against needless hate of people based on things they can’t control, like where they were born.
“Hate based on country of origin”: don’t worry, just think that all the Israelis you’ve ever met and will ever meet have ever been and will ever be against Israel’s colonial expansion.
Could you post your sources?
This is the main poll I saw quoted around when searching.
https://jcfa.org/survey-most-israelis-want-to-see-military-rule-in-gaza-the-day-after/
the current poll indicates a clear Israeli majority (64%) opposed to establishing a Palestinian state
64% is not over 90%
64% it’s still low
36% is low, 64% is high.
Let’s be fair, maybe you’re not being disingenuous, are you stupid?
Would you also agree most Russians are responsible for the invasion of Ukraine?
The only war is class war.
Don’t vulgarize the class struggle by erasing settler-colonialism from the equation. You’ve turned a uniting statement into its opposite, using it to defend a genocidal apartheid state.
Is anyone trying to defend Russia by pinning everything in Putin alone and saying we need to keep supporting Russia because they’re otherwise good? No? Then you’re just strawmanning
if those “Russians” came from other continents, and started stealing native Ukrainian land, calling it Russia due to biblical crap, while imperialists giving them a green card, then they started ethnic cleanse millions of indigenous people of that land, and established a fake western state called Russia, renaming every village with fake names using a made up language.
Then my answer is YES i would agree
I mean those Russians are volunteering to murder Ukrainians for money.
Even if this were true (it’s not) you still moved the goal posts from your original statement. And even if it were true (it’s not) it still doesn’t pin the problem solely on Putin or on Russian citizens, almost like there’s nuanced material analysis to be applied across broad, complex international geopolitics.
EVEN THEN, Your analysis is just mediocre at best. Deliberately misleading, childish and ignorant at worst.
I would say the NATO leaders are responsible, as they’ve admitted their plan to provoke Russia into invading by breaking the minsk agreements and building forces up along the border.
“NATO made me bomb all those hospitals”.
You guys unironically use the exact same rhetoric Israel uses to justify what it does to Palestinians to defend Russian aggression in Ukraine because you incorrectly believe Russia is a balancing power to “the West” instead of just another flavour of imperialist, authoritarian oppressors.
Could you please address the points I’ve made.
I can’t address your point for the same reason I can’t refute that a teapot is currently orbiting Jupiter.
Are you on drugs or did you not take your drugs?
Russia doesn’t have the finance capital required to be imperialist, and as such in a conflict between the clear imperialist hegemony and a reactionary nationalist state like Russia, Russia plays a progressive role. Churchill was a monstrous imperialist that committed genocide in India, but the Soviet Union was correct in identifying the UK as an ally against Nazi Germany, the larger threat at the time. Russia isn’t even an actual imperialist, and therefore its sovereignty should be respected, rather than continuously encircled with missiles pointing directly at Moscow.
I think this is really just a semantic argument because you seem to be writing specifically with Lenin’s rather narrow definition of imperialism in mind.
If we go by the common understanding of imperialism which has been in use for at least a century before Lenin even picked up a pen:
The extension of a nation’s authority by territorial acquisition or by the establishment of economic and political dominance over other nations.
You can absolutely classify the aggression the Russian Federation inflicts on former Soviet states as imperialism.
rather than continuously encircled with missiles pointing directly at Moscow
Would Finland have joined NATO if Russia didn’t invade Ukraine?
Does their voluntary entry into a defensive alliance constitute an “encirclement”? Do they not have a right to conduct their own diplomacy as they see fit?
Furthermore, when both Russia and NATO agree that MAD is a legitimate defensive measure, can either argue in good faith that “stationing” missiles is aggression? Russia points missiles at NATO nations, NATO points them back, both blocs openly agree that this is what has prevented nuclear war from breaking out (so far).
Finally, while I don’t completely agree with the conflation of the US and NATO, I think we can agree that the US as an imperialist power has absolutely taken every measure it can to sabotage communist states. However should Russia not respect the sovereignty of smaller nations surrounding it? Based on the actions of Russia towards former Soviet states who remained “neutral”, joining NATO seems to be the only way for them to prevent a Russian invasion.
My issue isn’t with the word imperialism, but with imperialism as an existing material process. I don’t hold to Lenin’s analysis because I prefer Lenin, I hold to it because Lenin described an actual existing system that I actively oppose. I do not oppose anything anyone may want to label as imperialism simply because they call it as such. As for NATO being imperialist, that point isn’t based on voluntary joining or not, but the fact that it is a military coalition of imperialist countries.
Respectfully, how can you not see that your response is simply:
“If I ignore everything you wrote, and if you simply agree with what I want you to believe, I’m actually correct”.
Rereading your original post, it also seems to imply that if Russia was richer (remember that it is not a socialist nation, the Russian economy does run on finance capital), you would be happy to classify its actions as imperialism.
Based on this, out of principle should we not oppose these actions which are fundamentally unjust regardless of who is committing them?
I don’t see that because I didn’t say any of that. Moreover, I never denied that if Russia had larger finance capital that it would likely develop in an imperialist direction. The important part is that that is currently a fantasy, and not actual reality. I do oppose actions that are fundamentally unjust, that’s why I suppose the US empire and NATO encirclement of countries that provokes needless wars and bloodshed for western imperialist profit.
Not the point of this meme. If 90% of Russians supported the invasion of Ukraine there’s a good argument to be made that the war isn’t solved by simply removing Putin.
Same applies to Netanyahu and the genocide of the Palestinians.
That’s fair.
The only war is class war.
Unless the classes are a settler class in an apartheid state and their native victim class, apparently, according to you.
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