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    21 days ago

    Gaelic and Scots are two entirely different languages

    Yes but Gaelic is also a Scots language. And sometimes Canadian.

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      21 days ago

      It’s a Scottish language, but not a Scots language, and the words are not interchangeable. The Scots lived in the lowlands and spoke Scots unlike the Highlanders who lived in the highlands (and western isles) and spoke Gaelic, the modern Scottish identity is a fusion of these two quite different cultures.

      Source: have lived in Scotland for over 3 decades

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          From 1500 on, Scotland was commonly divided by language into two groups of people, Gaelic-speaking “Highlanders” (the language formerly called Scottis by English speakers and known by many Lowlanders in the 18th century as “Erse”) and the Inglis-speaking “Lowlanders” (a language later to be called Scots). However, movement between the two regions increased over the last few centuries. Highlanders moved to major cities (e.g. Glasgow and Edinburgh) and regions bordering the southern Highlands (e.g. Lowland Stirlingshire and Perthshire). This is evidenced by people with traditional Gaelic surnames (including anglicised varieties) currently living in these areas. Lowlanders also settled in Highland regions such as Moray, which was traditionally Gaelic-speaking but replaced with Doric in the 19th century. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scottish_people

          Most commonly spoken in the Scottish Lowlands, the Northern Isles of Scotland, and northern Ulster in Ireland (where the local dialect is known as Ulster Scots), it is sometimes called Lowland Scots, to distinguish it from Scottish Gaelic, the Celtic language that was historically restricted to most of the Scottish Highlands, the Hebrides, and Galloway after the sixteenth century;[13] or Broad Scots, to distinguish it from Scottish Standard English. Many Scottish people’s speech exists on a dialect continuum ranging between Broad Scots and Standard English. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scots_language

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            21 days ago

            I wasn’t disputing your wee history lesson. In modern parlance ‘Scots’ is often substituted for ‘Scottish’.

            Seeing as you’re not in agreement you’re either deafblind, not Scots or a clanker.

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              20 days ago

              I’ve been here since I was 9, so not technically Scottish, no. I get that Scots is an abbreviation of Scottish, but in this context it clearly refers to the language/culture of the same name. I assumed you were a Canadian or American, which is why I gave the history lesson.

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                20 days ago

                in this context

                In what context? You pulled me up for saying ‘Gaelic is a Scots language’ when calling it ‘Scots Gaelic’ is valid and distinguishes it from Irish.

                And FYI its as Canadian as it is Scots so leave them be.

                which is why I gave the history lesson

                Yeah well nobody likes a smart arse.