The current political apparatus in the U.S. is one of genocide and capitalism, it has been so since the founding and will not change by voting. It would not respond to my desire, and so I do not have such use of voting. The political future I wish to see can only come by taking power from the current system. It will not happen tomorrow, but nevertheless we should be prepared. And therefore, I, and BanMeFromPosting I assume, suggest organizing. Getting involved with politics day-to-day, building community, support networks, reading to better understand the world, etc.
Voting takes like 0 effort. You can work to supplant the current system AND vote once every few years. What possible downside would there be? It can help the idea of breaking the two-party system gain popular support too, which is symbiotic with the organizing you are suggesting.
Getting involved with politics day-to-day, building community, support networks, reading to better understand the world, etc.
Those are all good things to do. But once you have a group of like-minded supporters who believe in your cause-- then what? You don’t want to vote or protest illegally apparently; economic protest maybe? Community assistance? Those are great, but you’re leaving options on the table and seriously limiting your group’s agency by not voting.
You people believe voting solves everything, that getting even a fascist democrat will be good as they can be pushed “left” somehow. This has been a thing for decades. Liberals are not to be trusted, they will side with fascism every time. Malcom X was right to call them foxes.
Is there a reason not to also vote? Also, why do .ml users never give any real suggestions for things to do to change the system? Do you have actual suggestions?
Join PSL. Join any volunteer organisation. Help out local outreach programmes. SALT for unions.
People generally don’t give you specifics because they dont know what your specific situation is, so they dont know what is available to you nor what you are capable of. That you need every action served up to you on a silver platter is an indictment of you not of the people you talk to.
Again, if your beliefs were capable of changing the world for the better it should be trivial to suggest a course of action. Instead, you are sitting there doing nothing but insult or make wrong assumptions about anyone who disagrees with you, and complain about anything someone else does to improve the world. Sad.
Again, if your beliefs were capable of changing the world for the better it should be trivial to suggest a course of action.
I suggest reading theory to better understand, I suggested organizing with communists and preparing for a revolution in another reply to you.
Marxism-Leninism has changed the world for the better before. Like in USSR where life expectancy sharply rose from age 30~ to 70 in such a short time. Where famines were no longer had and everyone became better educated. China is another, where every year there’s significant improvements, poverty being practically eliminated and are even reverting desertification.
Instead, you are sitting there doing nothing but insult or make wrong assumptions about anyone who disagrees with you, and complain about anything someone else does to improve the world. Sad.
You lot are NOT improving the world, are you fucking dense? Climate change is rabidly getting worse and Democrats and Republicans alike are still bound to capital, and capital profits from destroying the climate.
The current political apparatus in the U.S. is one of genocide and capitalism, it has been so since the founding and will not change by voting. It would not respond to my desire, and so I do not have such use of voting. The political future I wish to see can only come by taking power from the current system. It will not happen tomorrow, but nevertheless we should be prepared. And therefore, I, and BanMeFromPosting I assume, suggest organizing. Getting involved with politics day-to-day, building community, support networks, reading to better understand the world, etc.
Voting takes like 0 effort. You can work to supplant the current system AND vote once every few years. What possible downside would there be? It can help the idea of breaking the two-party system gain popular support too, which is symbiotic with the organizing you are suggesting.
Those are all good things to do. But once you have a group of like-minded supporters who believe in your cause-- then what? You don’t want to vote or protest illegally apparently; economic protest maybe? Community assistance? Those are great, but you’re leaving options on the table and seriously limiting your group’s agency by not voting.
Voting. Does. Not. Work.
You people believe voting solves everything, that getting even a fascist democrat will be good as they can be pushed “left” somehow. This has been a thing for decades. Liberals are not to be trusted, they will side with fascism every time. Malcom X was right to call them foxes.
Is there a reason not to also vote? Also, why do .ml users never give any real suggestions for things to do to change the system? Do you have actual suggestions?
Join PSL. Join any volunteer organisation. Help out local outreach programmes. SALT for unions.
People generally don’t give you specifics because they dont know what your specific situation is, so they dont know what is available to you nor what you are capable of. That you need every action served up to you on a silver platter is an indictment of you not of the people you talk to.
You don’t change the system, it cannot be reformed. It’s one that only serves the bourgeois.
Start by reading theory and not books like Harry Potter, to understand the material conditions of your country and its system.
So no? If your theory is applicable you could easily use it to suggest a course of action.
it’s only a “no” from you because you don’t want things to change for the better, only back to a time where you did not care about politics.
Again, if your beliefs were capable of changing the world for the better it should be trivial to suggest a course of action. Instead, you are sitting there doing nothing but insult or make wrong assumptions about anyone who disagrees with you, and complain about anything someone else does to improve the world. Sad.
I suggest reading theory to better understand, I suggested organizing with communists and preparing for a revolution in another reply to you.
Marxism-Leninism has changed the world for the better before. Like in USSR where life expectancy sharply rose from age 30~ to 70 in such a short time. Where famines were no longer had and everyone became better educated. China is another, where every year there’s significant improvements, poverty being practically eliminated and are even reverting desertification.
You lot are NOT improving the world, are you fucking dense? Climate change is rabidly getting worse and Democrats and Republicans alike are still bound to capital, and capital profits from destroying the climate.