Youre depicting Democrats as angels despite all the horrible shit they do. So it is completely reasonable to conclude what they concluded about your position. Thats not what a strawman is, a strawman isn’t just “when you adress the logical conclusions to the other persons statement”.
If youre going to make an attempt at pseudo-intellectual dismissals of other people, at least learn how the fallacy you’re referring to functions.
You dont care about people outside of the US. You are a nationalist. Your only fear with regards to politics is experiencing the pain your regime brings upon other countries every day. All of these statements are reasonable assertions based on what you had written so far.
My meme doesn’t specify the angel box is democrats. The point is that people who assume voting does not matter are contributing to the worse outcome happening, which is true. I do have the personal belief that democrats are meaningfully better than republicans on domestic and foreign policy, but no, I do not think they are angels. I think my responses have made that clear and so taking the meme literally over the opinions I have explicitly expressed and argued for is incorrect.
And yes, their argument is a strawman. They wanted to feel good about disagreeing with someone who unpersons foreigners and does not care about people outside of their country, so they decided that’s who I was. This completely ignores very reasonable explanations such as “it’s possible to care about more than one thing at once”. The point of calling their argument a strawman is to express that no, they are not describing my position accurately.
And neither are you. I care about people outside the US. Would it be valid to say you don’t care about people inside the US because you are telling us not to improve our domestic policies? I support the ICC and other extranational oversight measures. Obviously I care about the wellbeing of the US a lot (I live here) but my decisions don’t fail to take the health of other nations into account, so no, I am not a nationalist. Claiming things like “you don’t consider [people outside your own country] humans” is patently ridiculous (honestly it’s straight up libel) when I have not expressed those views. It’s a strawman because they are responding not to what was said, but to what they falsely imagine my beliefs to be.
My meme doesn’t specify the angel box is democrats.
So the way conversation works is that responses like yours come after statements made by someone else and the responses are made in and viewed in the context of the wider conversation. So when the meme is about Democrats and republicans and you then give it your own little spin with a similar binary, people rightfully conclude you’re saying Democrats are angels. I can empathise that this might be tough when youre a horrible person, like you, who doesn’t get a lot of chances for proper social interaction, so I get you might struggle with the concept. Youre welcome for explaining it to you.
Now, something else people do, is look at what else you are saying and they also use that to understand what you’re trying to illustrate thru an artistic medium. From your other statements it is clear you consider them angels. Which means youre a fascist genocidal cop-loving racist homophobe - even if you say you aren’t - because your actions are ones of running defence for fascist genocidal cop-loving racist homophobes. You know like when your bullies grab your arms and make you punch yourself and they ask you “why are you punching yourself?” youre not really punching yourself - they are, even though they say something different, it is what they are doing that matters.
I do have the personal belief that democrats are meaningfully better than republicans on domestic and foreign policy
Sweet, I believe dragons are real but that doesn’t make it so either. In reality dragons dont exist, there is no queen of England and the democrats are as bad domestivally and with foreign policy.
I care about people outside the US.
No, you just say you do. You do not give a fuck about foreigners if you vote for genociders. Especially not when you depict them as angels compared to republicans.
The rest of your screed is just you retreading things that have already been refuted and saying things that are answered by READING THE LINKED TEXT. At this point its clear you’re just trolling, since you dont actually want to discuss things - You dont engage with the text given to you, you ignore what people write, you hide behind misused rhetorics, you fail to engage arguments presented. I am not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing, I find trolling like what youre attempting to be sad and tiresome. If you just want to troll just post goatse or some lazy one-liner, that way we can all know to dismiss you immediately.
Surely you can think of a better way to affect meaningful change than sitting in a basement accusing random people online of being fascists. You do realize this is detrimental to your cause?
Then again, maybe you don’t… yeah, probably not. What a waste.
Youre also doing the same, dumbass. You dont think you could be more effective if you went outside instead of sitting here arguing with people who quote clearly will not vote democrat?
Probably not, your people skills suck as does your communication. You’d probably just alienate potential voters.
The person I’m arguing against doesn’t live in the US. I’m arguing that they should stop telling us to make our lives worse by not voting. The viable options are harm reduction (vote democrat) or systemic reform (vote third party). Not voting is never the correct choice.
You would make your life better by not voting democrat or republican. They are pointing out your fucked up argument is “sure genocide and all, but what about meeeee”
Democratic Party is not harm reduction, read the link.
Except you lot don’t believe this since so many of BlueMAGA tell everyone that voting third party is useless and you might as well not vote at all if you’re gonna do that.
You have them nothing else to respond to. If you want answers of substance then bring something substantial to the table. Otherwise people will just reciprocate your lazy comments with low effort dunks.
Did it feel good to attack that strawman you made up? Let me know when you’re ready for an actual discussion.
Youre depicting Democrats as angels despite all the horrible shit they do. So it is completely reasonable to conclude what they concluded about your position. Thats not what a strawman is, a strawman isn’t just “when you adress the logical conclusions to the other persons statement”.
If youre going to make an attempt at pseudo-intellectual dismissals of other people, at least learn how the fallacy you’re referring to functions.
You dont care about people outside of the US. You are a nationalist. Your only fear with regards to politics is experiencing the pain your regime brings upon other countries every day. All of these statements are reasonable assertions based on what you had written so far.
My meme doesn’t specify the angel box is democrats. The point is that people who assume voting does not matter are contributing to the worse outcome happening, which is true. I do have the personal belief that democrats are meaningfully better than republicans on domestic and foreign policy, but no, I do not think they are angels. I think my responses have made that clear and so taking the meme literally over the opinions I have explicitly expressed and argued for is incorrect.
And yes, their argument is a strawman. They wanted to feel good about disagreeing with someone who unpersons foreigners and does not care about people outside of their country, so they decided that’s who I was. This completely ignores very reasonable explanations such as “it’s possible to care about more than one thing at once”. The point of calling their argument a strawman is to express that no, they are not describing my position accurately.
And neither are you. I care about people outside the US. Would it be valid to say you don’t care about people inside the US because you are telling us not to improve our domestic policies? I support the ICC and other extranational oversight measures. Obviously I care about the wellbeing of the US a lot (I live here) but my decisions don’t fail to take the health of other nations into account, so no, I am not a nationalist. Claiming things like “you don’t consider [people outside your own country] humans” is patently ridiculous (honestly it’s straight up libel) when I have not expressed those views. It’s a strawman because they are responding not to what was said, but to what they falsely imagine my beliefs to be.
Ah the classic “I’m not touching you!” Defense
So the way conversation works is that responses like yours come after statements made by someone else and the responses are made in and viewed in the context of the wider conversation. So when the meme is about Democrats and republicans and you then give it your own little spin with a similar binary, people rightfully conclude you’re saying Democrats are angels. I can empathise that this might be tough when youre a horrible person, like you, who doesn’t get a lot of chances for proper social interaction, so I get you might struggle with the concept. Youre welcome for explaining it to you.
Now, something else people do, is look at what else you are saying and they also use that to understand what you’re trying to illustrate thru an artistic medium. From your other statements it is clear you consider them angels. Which means youre a fascist genocidal cop-loving racist homophobe - even if you say you aren’t - because your actions are ones of running defence for fascist genocidal cop-loving racist homophobes. You know like when your bullies grab your arms and make you punch yourself and they ask you “why are you punching yourself?” youre not really punching yourself - they are, even though they say something different, it is what they are doing that matters.
Sweet, I believe dragons are real but that doesn’t make it so either. In reality dragons dont exist, there is no queen of England and the democrats are as bad domestivally and with foreign policy.
No, you just say you do. You do not give a fuck about foreigners if you vote for genociders. Especially not when you depict them as angels compared to republicans.
The rest of your screed is just you retreading things that have already been refuted and saying things that are answered by READING THE LINKED TEXT. At this point its clear you’re just trolling, since you dont actually want to discuss things - You dont engage with the text given to you, you ignore what people write, you hide behind misused rhetorics, you fail to engage arguments presented. I am not interested in arguing for the sake of arguing, I find trolling like what youre attempting to be sad and tiresome. If you just want to troll just post goatse or some lazy one-liner, that way we can all know to dismiss you immediately.
go back to reddit, fash
Surely you can think of a better way to affect meaningful change than sitting in a basement accusing random people online of being fascists. You do realize this is detrimental to your cause?
Then again, maybe you don’t… yeah, probably not. What a waste.
Youre also doing the same, dumbass. You dont think you could be more effective if you went outside instead of sitting here arguing with people who quote clearly will not vote democrat?
Probably not, your people skills suck as does your communication. You’d probably just alienate potential voters.
The person I’m arguing against doesn’t live in the US. I’m arguing that they should stop telling us to make our lives worse by not voting. The viable options are harm reduction (vote democrat) or systemic reform (vote third party). Not voting is never the correct choice.
You would make your life better by not voting democrat or republican. They are pointing out your fucked up argument is “sure genocide and all, but what about meeeee”
Democratic Party is not harm reduction, read the link.
Except you lot don’t believe this since so many of BlueMAGA tell everyone that voting third party is useless and you might as well not vote at all if you’re gonna do that.
What cause? Like getting people who are legitimizing a system that enables, defends and protects genocide into communism?
Wow you really got me with that one lmfao
You have them nothing else to respond to. If you want answers of substance then bring something substantial to the table. Otherwise people will just reciprocate your lazy comments with low effort dunks.