• Rottcodd@lemmy.world
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    …Iron Truth volunteers conflating Palestinian advocacy with material support for Hamas…

    So Iron Truth lies.

    How unsurprisingly Orwellian…

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    I’ve never seen a country lose support quicker than during this war so they’re apparently doing a real shitty job censoring content.

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      Where I live, not a single newsoutlet will talk against israel. Everybody wears pins and have flags on their desks as support for a country that has zero influence over our culture. But I cant find a single person that doesnt think of them as assholes

    • Philo@sh.itjust.works
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      Take a closer look at history not just current events. Israel, Jews, and Zionism have been losing support for nearly 100 years since Arthur Balfour in 1908. Although I can agree that in some cases Zionism is wrong, hatred of Jews as a people and a religion is not right. Hatred of a country in my opinion is just not rational.

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        Are you saying that it’s ok to hate religious or ethnic groups but not the countries they come from?

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          Wow, You have no fucking idea how to read. Where the fuck did I say that?

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            You should probably stop being angry and either edit and rephrase your comment to be clearer or stop denying your obvious antisemitism.

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              This is from my original comment.

              “hatred of Jews as a people and a religion is not right.”

              Care to show me where this is antisemitic? Now do you care to retract that false accusation?

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    The sheer level of obliviousness it takes to call yourself “Iron” anything as a Jewish group supporting a genocide is astounding.

    What’s next, the Storm Squad?

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    1 year ago

    Hence why Lemmy is great. Hence why FOSS programs such as signal are perfect and should be used primarily.

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    This is the best summary I could come up with:


    The brainchild of Dani Kaganovitch, a Tel Aviv-based software engineer at Google, Iron Truth claims its tech industry back channels have led to the removal of roughly 1,000 posts tagged by its members as false, antisemitic, or “pro-terrorist” across platforms such as X, YouTube, and TikTok.

    While content moderation trigger-happiness around mere mentions of designated terror organizations has led to undue censorship of Palestinian and other Middle Eastern users, Big Tech policies on misinformation are, on paper, much more conservative.

    “It’s really hard to identify disinformation,” Kaganovitch acknowledged in an interview, conceding that what’s considered a conspiracy today might be corroborated tomorrow, and pointing to a recent Haaretz report that an Israel Defense Forces helicopter may have inadvertently killed Israelis on October 7 in the course of firing at Hamas.

    Even the words “Israel lied” were suggested to Iron Truth volunteers on the grounds that they could be used in “false posts.” On October 16, two days after an Israeli airstrike killed 70 Palestinians evacuating from northern Gaza, one Telegram group member shared a TikTok containing imagery of one of the bombed convoys.

    Links to similar allegations of Israeli war crimes from figures such as popular Twitch streamer Hasan Piker; Colombian President Gustavo Petro; psychologist Gabor Maté; and a variety of obscure, ordinary social media users have received the same treatment.

    Chat transcripts show many Iron Truth volunteers conflating Palestinian advocacy with material support for Hamas or characterizing news coverage as “misinformation” or “disinformation,” perennially vague terms whose meaning is further diluted in times of war and crisis.


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    Muldoon added that Google “encourages employees to use their time and skills to volunteer for causes they care about.”

    This is a great brush off but as a general statement is so broad it could come back to bite them in a big way.

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      I mean Google did that like 10+ years ago and pretty famously made that go away.

  • Philo@sh.itjust.works
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    It seems you have never been to certain lemmy.ml communities where any posts against current SJW flavors of the week will be removed by moderators.