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  • I’m looking for other complex open world games that throw you into the deep end without any explanation, and are completely unforgiving when you make mistakes.
    Games that even actively hate the player, but give you a deep sense of satisfaction when you finally figure it out.

    So no tutorial, no quest markers, no mini-map, no quick-saving, etc.

    Boy have I got a game for you. I’m playing Darkwood right now and this should tick most of your boxes. It’s not a huge open world, more like several open zones as you progress through the story, but otherwise should do what you want. It’s also not just deeply unsettling but also genuinely terrifying despite being a top-down game.





  • I mean, sort of. Yes and no. Also, this is all from second hand accounts - I played it on launch when Alife was nonexistent and had to be emergency fixed with mods to not spawn on top of you, and have been putting off a second playthrough until at least the DLC drop.

    Alife is still neither as good as previous games, nor as good as what they promised in pre-release material. But they have gotten it much better, and the spawn-in garbage of the release version should be gone. I think the final hurdle is that there is a very limited bubble around the player where NPCs are actually online and active in the world as objects as opposed to simulated offline, and that is the final hurdle to truly make it feel like it should.

    I recommend Cheeki Breeki’s anniversary video, it summarises the patches so far and the state of the game (though it’s a few months old now).



  • It’s also just like… gaming is different now and the culture is different. Games take themselves more seriously in ways they didn’t use to in say the late nineties/early aughts. There was a whimsical air to early games where you know, it wasn’t a big deal if you used cheat codes, you were just having fun by yourself at your PC. These days games are to a much further extent curated experiences that take themselves seriously and where it’s important to get the full “artistic vision”.

    Also in the pre-internet times it was often a benefit to have secret stuff like cheat codes to generate buzz. I’m reusing an example from elsewhere in this thread but it was good word of mouth at the school/work place to have people spread the word about neat things like the Big Daddy car in Age of Empires or whatever. These days you could just find it with a quick search, and the magic and appeal of that kind of stuff is gone.

    And again I want to pushback on the MTX angle a bit simply because we are still far from being at a stage where every game has them, even AAA games. Hell, if anything the GAAS and MTX wave seem to be abating. I would be much more on board with your argument if microtransactions were absolutely omnipresent, but we’re not there at all, even in the AAA space. And I could absolutely see a retro-themed indie single player game add some old school cheat codes, I actually think at this point it would be a pretty solid marketing trick.