No. American and allied troops fought in the Vietnam conflict. Our strategy evolved in the Cold War and proxy wars. A proxy war is fought only with fiscal, humanitarian, and arms support.

For example, we destroyed Afghanistan in the 80’s by supporting the mujahideen fighting against the Soviet Union: a proxy war. Unable to communicate what’s been done, they resorted to extreme violence in September, 2001. So, we fucked 'em all the war back to 17th century religious persecution.

I’m a born American. I love so much about this country at the roots of the land and people I meet in it. But, it’s totally fucking rotten at the top and we refuse to admit it. If we did then we’d have to do something about it. Then, it quickly becomes obvious that voting isn’t going to do jack shit. That’s scary as fuck.

Don’t forget Vietnam and Korea.

Vietnam and Korea were hot wars. My examples are proxy wars where the locals retiliated with “terrorism”.

The US is constantly enmeshed in wars, but when was the last time Americans actually won one? 1945?

We’re achieving our goals in Ukraine right now, as we did in all my examples above. The last time we lost was Vietnam, unless we’re also counting failed coup attempts (2020).

This time it’s different.

I understand where you’re coming from. I think you’re naive.

If we wanted the war to be won then we’d have already settled it with superior airpower and munitions. Instead, we offer limited assistance and imposed Vietnam-style geographic rules.

That was the moron wing of US foreign policy.

So, the reason the program has been so successful for decades is because it’s being run by morons?

That’s how you’re backing your assertion of “vatnik propaganda”?

Wow. Good luck with that nonsense.

Afghanistan. Iraq. Iran. Libya. Syria.

But, suuuure. This time it’s different.

This isn’t an error. A proxy war at the expense of innocents has always been the plan. It’s what we do. The rest is just lies we tell ourselves to feel good about it. Ukraine needs to join NATO afterwards so they won’t retaliate with “terrorism” like everyone else has in the past. Bonus: Allied airfields on Russia’s doorstep.

After Trump publicly supported a Venezuelan coup in 2019, in 2020 Silvercorp, a US corporation, sent 60 soldiers to effect the coup. Elon tweeted “We coup who we want,” because he’s socially inept and his various business interests would benefit immensely from stolen lithium. The coup failed.

Maduro may be a villain. But, arresting colonizers isn’t why.

There you go again caring about which political party takes credit. Repeating the same fallacy over and over again only works on idiots, meaning the vast majority of humanity. See: The Engineering of Consent (1947), The Manufacturing of Consent (1988).

Think more, reactionary. It’s not rocket science. It’s not even algebra.

All this anti-third party logic fails as soon as the goal is outcomes regardless of which political party ends up taking credit. Just 5% of the GE puts another platform on every ballot in the next cycle. And, that immediately places immense pressure upon the duopoly.

It’s so simple there’s now a massive amount of state-sponsored propaganda trying to prevent too many from figuring it out.

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That’s nice.

All the lukewarm attempts to help, rooted in shallow understanding, reinforced my suicidal ideation. What’s the value of false love from a paid hotline worker one will never speak to again? It’s negative.

Be ready to love the shit out of someone yourself. Share their sorrow. Don’t try to fix it. Just try to understand. It’ll fucking suck. The other person knows it sucks for you. Tell them it sucks and that you’re choosing it.

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The USA kills lots of people: Native Americans, African Americans, Arabs, Asians. We’re still doing it, now even to whites in Ukraine. It’s all to feed the military industrial complex, just as Eisenhower warned. War is why capital reserves for banks have been raised and why the Fed speaks of lowering the borrow rate. Admitting it is the difference between a patriot and a nationalist.

What false premise?

I don’t care which party takes advantage of the principles of the labor platform.

I need not read links to identify your false premise. The goal isn’t that a certain party win. The revolutionary isn’t loyal to party, only principle. It doesn’t matter which group of opportunistic assholes “win”.

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You’re flat out wrong, likely rooted in ignorance of the system. Without choice on the ballot it can’t be voted for. The obstacles to access are far greater than winning an ideoloical majority.

Consider the alternative of putting the Green platform on every ballot in 2028, overcoming the first and largest obstacle maintaining duopoly. It takes only 5% of the GE popular. Then, watch as Democrats panic to maintain the “big tent” for four years.

I’m a triple minority. I’ve suffered assholes my whole life. Things got worse under Trump. But, that damage is already done. In this facet nothing changes for me if it’s Trump once again. I’m not afraid. We must think in terms much greater than four years.