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  • Yeah, I am just speaking as a general principle - not whatever happened here. Mass downvoting isn’t at all observed like that anyway. It’s the behaviour from some individual accounts that repeatedly downvote different threads from a specific community. So you’d be looking at habits across threads.

    If in my community (for instance) someone was to come in and just downvote the entire first page, I’d probably ban them because that would just be a crude attempt to target it. And again: downvoting like that is worse for smaller communities trying to grow.


  • Anyone banning for downvoting is incredibly petty or thin skinned, just my observation. If it wasn’t for the instance shutting down, it would have made a good post on yptb. Reading other comment threads on this post support the thin skinned theory imho. I just happened to be browsing all when I found the post. Looking at my subs, I wasn’t subscribed to any community there.

    What about in the context of mass-downvoters? I can’t speak for Dubvee, but mass-downvoters do exist - and they can be corrosive for smaller communities trying to grow, as early downvotes of threads can effectively kill them. These are accounts that seem to primarily downvote and don’t actually interact on-site, and have no real pattern to it. This kind of response has little to do with sensitivity.







  • Look at what Reddit is saying. It’s absurd:

    For UK users under 18, Reddit said it has to restrict sexually explicit content; content that promotes suicide, deliberate self-injury, and eating disorders; content that incites abuse or hatred against people based upon protected characteristics; bullying content; content that promotes violence or “depicts real or realistic serious violence against a person, an animal, or a fictional creature”; content that promotes challenges or stunts that are likely to cause serious injuries; content that encourages people to use harmful substances or substances in harmful quantities; content that shames people based on body type or physical features; and “content that promotes or romanticizes depression, hopelessness and despair.”

    WTF? How is this supposed to work? A system that auto-blocks all NSFW tagged content itself as a blunt instrument is viable - but half the stuff on here, on Reddit here isn’t even necessarily tagged as NSFW when its posted. Are extreme mountain biking or skiing or skateboarding or other similar types videos going to be age-gated because they could be content that “promotes challenges or stunts that are likely to cause serious injuries”? How do you verify whether or not content specifically romanticises “hopelessness” or “despair” exactly? Are Giles Corey songs now 18+? What does that even mean? Even the writing of it is Orwellian.

    It also adds “depicts real or realistic serious violence against a person, an animal, or a fictional creature” ???

    Are action movie clips now going to be age-gated? Or video game clips? From TV shows and films that are PG-13?


  • People need to be the change they want to see. I came here because I wanted to run some communities, but ultimately it was impossible on Reddit. All the names are taken, all the aging mod teams set in stone. You essentially have no meaningful opportunity to build anything new on there. In contrast, and especially with federation, the Fediverse is a completely different system. A fresh start - still after 2 years. And it has way better internal advertisement of communities than Reddit does.

    And to be clear, on Reddit you can easily just shout into the wilderness at no-one. Big audience means you can get drowned out.




  • I think the core concept of platforms like Reddit and Lemmy can be very valuable but it’s executed very badly. There should be multiple independent steps of verifying if someone should get banned and in what way. And probably integrate a good test for joining the community so that it’s more likely for people to be rational from the start (that way you don’t even have to look at so many potential flags).

    Neither of these things are logistically viable for a community site that wants any level of consistent engagement. How do you “verify” whether or not a ban from a community was objectively justified? What “tests” should there be for whether or not someone should be able to interact in a community in the first place?




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    I don’t know the details of all decisions lemmy.world instance admins have made, but it seems to me that the #1 instance will always generate the most animosity because it’s far more likely than any other instance to find itself in situations where they’re pressed to make decisions by their userbase.

    Servers with 20% of the users and 10% of the communities, with only like a dozen ‘active’ communities will simply hardly ever be in that position and generate no meaningful pushback so they’ll always look good by comparison. Additionally, even lemmy.world community mods can generate hostility based on decisions they made despite them having nothing to do with the instance management - and since lemmy.world dominates, you’re much more likely to be posting in a lemmy.world community.


  • I’d object and probably complain and it’d get your instance blacklisted. I’d support all community migrations being made publicly known - so you can see the timestamps and paper trail of a community.

    But this isn’t quite the way that community migration would work here - it’s not quite the same thing. You would be attempting to give the impression I am actively contributing to a community I’m not - whereas I’m talking about moving a community from instance A to B. The community for all intents and purpose is the same.

    If I posted actively to a community I do not own or moderate and they moved server and thus took my posts there with them, I wouldn’t really object to that.




  • I do. I care very much about identity and authenticity in the Fediverse. A server that can take posts done in one group and publish as their own is as unreliable as a server who puts fake posts impersonating a popular user.

    Then we’re at an impasse. But communities becoming completely modular and movable solves the problems you speak of. That’s the answer.

    again, why you are talking about Lemmy only? Mastodon instances from all sizes go down every other week.

    Because I don’t really care or know that much about Mastodon.


  • First, I think that community migration implementation from PieFed has very bad implications. It is literally rewriting history.

    I don’t really care about that. If the idea of communities being effectively modular becomes an accepted standard, then no-one will blink an eye at their posts on a prior community being redirected after the fact to another instance.

    Second, if we want to make the Fediverse something really accessible, it needs to be a lot more reliable. Yeah, when we are a few thousand people it’s easy to coordinate the migration of a few dozen communities. But if we are talking about millions or billions of people, we can not afford to have constant failures.

    We don’t have constant failures though? What are you referring to here? Lemm.ee crashed out due to owner/admins burnout. That’s the only major one i can think of.