No, they are smaller. The largest size is 30cm which is enough for me though. The most expensive one with that size costs 11,50€. Another delivery place has 32cm ones. Most expensive there is 9,40€. There is nothing inherently wrong with them. They aren’t from an Italian restaurant though and aren’t the same quality you would get in a real restaurant. They still taste good and satisfy your pizza cravings though. Delivery is free too if you’re over the minimum order balance. From what I’d guess they are on the are more like those fast food pizza places like Pizza Hut or Domino’s but I’ve ordered like maybe once from them so I’m not sure.

Maybe we both use deliveries differently. If I order something for delivery I don’t expect Restaurant quality food. If your pizza is from a Italian restaurant and is really well made/restaurant quality I see why it’s so expensive. For me delivery is more “fancy” than fast food but not as “fancy” as actually eating in a real restaurant

Yeah sounds expensive to me. Also a German. 1 Pizza delivered is around 10€ that’s it. But that wouldnt get me over the minimum delivery order though. Not a problem for me yet since I’ve never ordered a pizza only for myself

I wouldn’t really trust this site. Videos that go through a lot of different benchmarks /programs and games are way better. This shows the M2 being pretty average/normal between other laptop CPUs: https://youtu.be/FWfJq0Y4Oos

And this shows M2 Ultra vs the top Intel CPU at that time: https://youtu.be/buLyy7x2dcQ

The things that’s impressive about the M[x] chips are their efficiency. Apple basically lying with the performance graphs they put out is really frustrating when they have an actual amazing metric they could show: power consumption. That’s what a RISC architecture is good at

Idk I feel like buying a cat with your groceries was a bit too much. Should have just skipped the groceries and only bought the cat

If they hold on to their existing vehicle than thats just another upside. If they buy a new gasoline car instead of an EV this is bad. But EVs dont have to be insanely heavy if we stop the whole cars getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger crap. They will still be heavier than their gasoline counterpart but one solution might be 2 tax brackets: One for gasoline cars and one for evs that has the same taxation levels but allows for, lets say, 500kg more weight in them

And I never argued against that. I just gave you one reason as to why their phones are more expensive. Of course used is greener than new.

It’s not inherently more ethical though. While it could be argued that more green means more ethical because you are trying to harm the planet as little as possible if you buy a phone that’s been produced with exploitation and child labor in its production line you still end up supporting it when buying used because you are part of the second hand market that supports people buying those phones. People will take into consideration if they can ever sell their stuff again when buying something. Those things would have to be weighed against each other if you want to make the statement that used phones are also automatically more ethical.

Buying a used phone that didn’t have those things in its production line and actively tries to avoid it would technically be the best choice. But ultimately it’s something the consumer shouldnt need to choose anyway. Regulations shouldnt allow for that to happen on the first place.

My initial answer to your comment made it pretty clear that I was explaining to you one reason as to why these phones are more expensive than other ones. That was it. If you’re this far without noticing what the discussion was about maybe it’s you that isn’t reading very well

I have never said you should buy a new or even a Fairphone to begin with. You’re trying to deflect from the actual discussion and make it look like I said certain stuff I never even said

No you didn’t list any facts that justifies your point. I already told you why what you said isn’t what you think it is. “Every time”. Dude I’ve just told you ONCE after you came back at me that you can’t compare massive cooperations against a small company. I don’t even own a Fairphone and have never owned one. I keep my phone as long as possible. I’m literally not the type of consumer you think I am. But sure just because I listed literal facts you can’t seem to accept, I’m a fanboy of a brand I’ve never bought from and just pointed out some facts. Whatever makes you feel better I guess

Eh nope. Just stating facts that’s all

Yes they are obviously not perfect but they are at least trying to change something, while the massive cooperations just dont acknowledge that problem at all.

And the updates thing: Apple controls the ecosystem and are a huge company. They dont have to worry about manufactures for a processor or other parts not supporting it longer and stop giving it driver updates. Same with Samsung and especially Google. They are huge companies that can basically do what they want. They will be able to get a hold of drivers and firmware because they are a huge customer to the manufactures. And they only just started promising those long updates. Meanwhile Fairphone has been trying for years to support their devices that long and had to struggle because they are not a massive cooperation that can influence manufactures like that to the point they now dont use normal consumer grade chips but ones with extended support.

Other phones can be much cheaper because they don’t care about slavery or child labor in their production line and don’t support their phones that long

Thought about that too. Honestly the improvement is 100% worth it anyway but I’ll keep the original fans and shroud so I can swap them if I ever sell the card

I bought 2 adapters from EK Water Block on caseking. Might be a bit more expensive then some options on amazon but with EK I know I have a product from a reputable brand. Here is the link to caseking: https://www.caseking.de/ek-water-blocks-ek-cable-pwm-fan-adapter-fuer-gpu-50cm-waek-1347.html?flxSmartSuggest=1

The push the air on the card, like normal GPU fans also do

Just got a reply from Arctic via Twitter and they said that the new revision of the black P12 max also use a fluid dynamic bearing. Idk how to make sure you get the new revision though

The max fans are great. The black one has been out for a while now with a lot of positive reviews but it uses ball bearings which have a tendency to be a bit louder (it’s still incredible given its price. See reviews) The white one was just recently released and Arctic gave it an upgrade with a fluid dynamic bearing, further reducing the noise during low rpm

I got a GPU fan to normal pwm case fan adapter. There are a lot on amazon but I cant guarantee their quality. I ordered 2 adapters from EK Water Blocks on caseking. With 4,90€ per adapter they might be more expensive than some options on Amazon but with EK Water Blocks I know I have an adapter from a reputable brand

Anyone know what I can do with the old fans and shroud haha

Idle temps are down about 10°C (probably also because the new fans dont completely stop spinning even on 0% for some reason. But you cant hear them at all so idc). In Furmark temp is down 4°C while being inaudible now. Keep in mind I havent changed the fan curve at all and it was tuned to be as quite as possible with the OG fans. Resulted in higher temps in the past but I just wanted to keep those OG fans as low spinning as possible because they were really loud at higher rpm. Oh and this mod is a rather common one. Usually with noctua fans though, which is why its called a noctua fan mod. But Arctic is way less expensive and their P12 Max fans are incredibly impressive

Edit: In games in might be an even bigger improvement temp wise. Noise wise its like night and day. I cant even hear the GPU fans anymore. I can hear the coil wine better than my fans now lol