Now this comment is hilarious and demonstrative of wide range of folly, not only of that particular history, but improper use of the term fascism. False equivalence fallacies aside, tell me:
That’s true. I also saw Bibi meeting with candidate-Trump more than Harris.
Couple private Mar-a-Lago meetings, if I recall.
Leaving aside PAC donations from zionist Miriam Adelson, second only to Musk in givings.
You really believe Netanyahu preferred Harris or Biden over Trump?
We can’t know for sure, of course. But we do know whom Bibi preferred and didn’t prefer.
We also know Harris has already publicly condemned this war. It isn’t much, but it’s unquestionably better than the rapist pedophile who also caves to Putin at every turn.
I hear you. I don’t expect much from them; I engage to ensure newcomers who know no better don’t get fooled – which is their objective to deceive.
By all means, your position is valid if during the primaries; it’s not valid once primaries are over and the outcome of the election is all but guaranteed to be one of the candidates on the ballot. After that, however, one begins making an accelerationist argument, and I cannot abide because along that pathway a lot of people will suffer. We are closer to the brink of WWIII or nuclear war than ever before when that wasn’t always an assured outcome.
I also cannot fault the hero who didn’t fight well enough versus the villain who made it necessary to fight perfectly.
I will always be on the side of anti-fascism above all. Even if that means choosing a lesser evil, or lesser poison. If only to save one life; if only to give access to abortion for one more woman; to promote one better vaccine policy, etc.
Otherwise, letting the fascist in leads to an acceleration of Entropy.
I hope one makes the case during these primaries actively and supports said candidates (do you have some in mind in any particular races), but after that we all join together to fight the much greater inevitable danger that is the Republican party.
I love that I already have you tagged lmao.
Yes or No: Western Leaders aside, Xi is a authoritarian war criminal, as well as Putin.
Try your best to answer yes or no without Whataboutism deflection.
Edit: Oof, they dodged this mightily lol. First comment they downvoted and refused to acknowledge thus far.
How convenient!
Please elaborate on how you feel your vote does not matter in your Democratic primaries!
I’ll just write what I wrote elsewhere. I had much criticism of Harris as I did Biden. I also believe we should all be EXTREMELY vocal about the influence AIPAC crap and center-right conservative politics has on the Democratic party. By all means, this is the primaries – be vocal and critical of the DNC. But it should be noted that Biden proved to be better than Trump in a myriad of ways:
If we only focus on one aspect of someone’s policy (which even then I refuse to believe Harris is as bad as Trump on Gaza), it can skew the big picture.
Unfortunately, my vote for Harris wasn’t ideal; it was simply a matter of damage-control. It’s my firm belief that these US service-members would not have been sent. It’s my firm belief that these 100+ Iranian school children would not have died. Leaving aside all the issues I previously mentioned where Harris and the ENTIRE Democratic party is objectively-better on (leaving aside, you know, Harris, Biden, Obama, etc. NOT being in the Epstein Files).
I had much criticism of Harris as I did Biden. But Biden proved to be better than Trump in a myriad of ways:
If we only focus on one aspect of someone’s policy (which even then I refuse to believe Harris is as bad as Trump on Gaza), it can skew the big picture.
Unfortunately, my vote for Harris wasn’t ideal; it was simply a matter of damage-control. It’s my firm belief that these US service-members would not have been sent. It’s my firm belief that these 100+ Iranian school children would not have died. Leaving aside all the issues I previously mentioned where Harris and the ENTIRE Democratic party is objectively-better on (leaving aside, you know, Harris, Biden, Obama, etc. NOT being in the Epstein Files).
Wake me up when Tlaib stops being a Democrat then.
Until then, she knows what you do not.
Are you involved in your state’s Democratic primaries? Whom are you supporting to change the makeup of the Democratic party!?
No Palestinian, or Iranian school children would feel safer or even as-safe with Trump than Harris as bound by the coalition of Democrats who included Rashida Tlaib herself and Bernie Sanders and other vocal critics of Israel. I certainly wouldn’t for me or my family! I’d be outright praying for Harris and I’m not even religious!
Are you involved in your state Democratic primaries? Who are you supporting in said primaries?
(edit: This person’s evasiveness and wedge-driving vector suggests a far-right bot that most likely does not originate from America. Tag them.)
I’ll take “milquetoastyness” over outright fascism any day. Would I love more progressive candidates across the board? Yes, absolutely! (By the way, are you engaged in your Democratic Primaries in your state right now?)
And so would any other sane, rational individual.
It’s kind of like the 1 nazi at the table argument. If you’re willing to sit out an election when literal nazis are running even if you don’t identify as one, and don’t absolutely love the alternative binary non-fascist choice, then you’re basically still a nazi.
But Harris publicly stated she sought a 2-state solution, called for a ceasefire, and sought to wind down the conflict overall. Regardless, I don’t think anyone in their right mind wouldn’t prefer Harris over “turn it into the Riveria” Trump who said, “Finish the job.”
One is a known quantity; the other is an unknown quantity.
Again, considering even if the couch sitters had voted Trump would have still won
Again, respectfully, polls aren’t votes. We don’t know that. If polls were as accurate as votes, we wouldn’t need to go vote.
The Democratic Party has a problem with fascism - they like it as much as Republicans
In the words of Carl Sagan, extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. I see no extraordinary evidence for what can only be described as boldfaced false equivalence gaslighting, but I am also unsurprised this narrative is so common for misinformed tankies.
I put most of the blame on Biden, but I also noticed one was unwilling to fundamentally address my points. Curiously, most of the people who complain about Democrats don’t seem to be very engaged in the Democratic primaries. By all means, I hope said groups (btw I’m not “Liberal” unless Bernie and AOC and Mandani and Talarico are) engage heavily in these primaries and push out AIPAC and conservative Democrats just the same.
But at the end of the day, the point remains: (1) Binary outcome election. (2) Milquetoast vs. Pure Fascism. Anything less than voting Milquetoast was a +1 for Fascism and the death of these Iranian children. (Again, using the same logic as these groups used for Biden and Gaza). See how easy that was?
Now again:
Is there regret for not voting Harris? (hindsight 20/20 and also making the massive assumption this poll is as accurate as people actually voting – lest we just use polls to vote instead of voting itself, right?). So far, I’m taking it as a no.
Are Uncommitted / Third Party / Couch-Sitters complicit in these deaths the same way complicity was drawn with Biden and Gaza by the logic of these same groups?
Two things can be true at the same time.
Indeed, it takes the aggregation of numerous groups to put someone past the post for a win; each subset pointing the finger at another does no good.
I put most of the blame on Biden, but I also noticed one was unwilling to fundamentally address my points:
Is there regret for not voting Harris? (hindsight 20/20 and also making the massive assumption this poll is as accurate as people actually voting – lest we just use polls to vote instead of voting itself, right?) So far, I’m taking it as a no.
Are Uncommitted / Third Party / Couch-Sitters complicit in these deaths the same way complicity was drawn with Biden and Gaza by the logic of these same groups regretful of their choice?
I have to wonder if any of those third party / Stein voter / no voters are having second thoughts as to their voting choice in the previous binary election.
These deaths would not have occurred with Harris.
By the logic of these folks in the past, does that mean they are complicit with all deaths to follow?
Edit: I’ll take that as a no. At least from the lemmy.ml tankie spillover bridgade below. Some serious BoTh SiDeS bullshit going down.
So I’ll take this moment to note a PSA:
If I understand right, ruzzia has long since started to develop and innovate domestically upon the design of Shaheds, and I don’t think they were receiving that many relative to domestic production, though I agree it’s a thorn in Putin’s side presumably.
Though I have some other theories as to the bigger game being played here but just theories and speculation.
I agree it’s not but like AIPAC I don’t think it’s a stretch that the broader cartel that is the GOP realizes their reelection hinges on the bilateral relationship with Russia. They’ve been in cahoots for at least 2 decades or more.
It is my first belief that this is the point.
And Putin is quite happy.
Haha oh yeah I played lots of medic and scout but mostly engi!
Is that a Yes, or a No.
I’m disappointed you couldn’t follow simple instructions. This must be bad faith.