

Ah, the “only closed source should make money but I will demand opensource compete with it” take. Love it.


Ah, the “only closed source should make money but I will demand opensource compete with it” take. Love it.
I don’t expect a short term solution. Where did you read that?
If we keep android the way it is and just slowly boil the frog, there will be little to no incentive to spend lots of money and time on alternatives. If you seriously believe the majority isn’t already getting fucked over by Scroogle and their spy devices, what world do you live in?
There isn’t going to be an acceleration for a non-android phone if android still stays “acceptable”. It’s not like investments and developments in alternatives are going faster than bureaucracy. When do you expect we get a big third or fourth competitor in the smartphone OS market? Harmony by Huawei?
You want immediate change. You’re asking for the impossible and disappointed you’re not getting it or that it isn’t happening.
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You accept that EU has started doing something and then demand they mandate something which they are in the process of doing.
Crapple built up their position to this point over 20 years in a time where the US were considered allies. Trump has luckily come about to change that perception and to allow the EU to stop being a bunch of pansies clammering to their daddy protector. They cannot piss of the US completely at the moment as it would take a single presidential order from a rampantly maniacal orange man to switch of most of Europe.
Change doesn’t happen immediately. It’s slow. Give it time.
The EU commission has multiple ongoing cases against Apple. The opened a new one in April regarding their non-compliance on multiple fronts, including the app store (which is related to Google’s bullshit). They have to give a response within 12 months which means that by 25 April 2026 we should have a response on what the EU will be doing.
The EU forced Apple to make their phones more repairable, they forced them to introduce USB-C charging for all their mobile devices (laptop, phone, and smartwatch IIRC), forced them to implement an alternative app store (very flawed implementation but see above), and probably more that I’m unaware of.
The EU isn’t perfect, it’s being influenced by the US, which have the goal of breaking it up), but they are doing something, which is more than can be said about most countries. I understand cynicism, but in this case, I still maintain that letting google fuck up Android would do the world a service, just like Trump is doing the world a service by fucking his country up. We may go through a few years (maybe decades if the US succeed in breaking up the EU) of difficulty because of it, but we will come out stronger afterwards.
Most people cannot and will not appreciate the EU and everything is has until they are impacted themselves.
I kinda want to see this fail in Europe. As in Google implements it and pisses the EU the fuck off. Please, I just want to see Google smacked in the mouth for implementing this, then losing billions fighting it in court while the EU implements digital sovereignty because the US can’t be trusted.
Please. It’s the only way people learn. First they have to lose something before understanding what it is they had.


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Sigh… Openscience on proprietary platforms.
Well, at least they got off of Elsevier and WoS, butthere seems to be a lot of work left to be done. Not least how rebuilding a broken system doesn’t solve the systemic problems that exist. Moving away from closed source systems is great, no doubt. I just hope it won’t lead to the same system being built just with opensource. Instead of being shackled in the dark it might end up being public shackles.
Pushover licenses show how much influence big tech companies have over opensource. It’s in their interest of promote these licenses.


Looks like I’ll be checking that out.


We all have limits. For some communicating with those who tolerate genocide is alright, for others using their software is fine, and for even others they will happily give money to them à la “it’s not me, so why should I care?”. But if the number of people who don’t care is not enough to sustain that software development, it will have an effect. We can wait to see if we get that far or do something about it.
I’ll check out Piefed and Mbin as that seems to be most common answer here.


I write opensource software, I donate to opensource, I use opensource. I however can’t do everything. That is why the question is “we” not “hey @gerowen@piefed.social why don’t you make a fork, you lazy bastard”. Code is not the only way to contribute to a project and I’m willing to donate to lemmy alternatives while it is still possible for me.
Piefed might be where I start donating. Gotta check it out first.


OK, let’s say somebody who hates you to the core and wants to see you dead made software you found great. All they said was stuff like “I think your kind deserves to be shot”, “your kind are subhuman”, “they hung your kind and I see nothing wrong with that”.
Would you use their software? Would you enjoy being part of the numbers that they use to validate getting money, maybe even power? Would you publicly promote their software? Would you get others to use it? Would you even donate to them? Would you get others to donate to them?


I’ll check it out. Thanks.


OK, thanks. I guess I’ll be migrating to those and setting up a donation - if they don’t use Github sponsors.


Usually it is as this point things turn to shit in opensource/community/fediverse/cooperative. The devs are not the product.
What does this even mean? Who creates something doesn’t matter at all? If that’s the case, then using Microshaft products doesn’t matter, does it? They can provide the infra and software for bombing Gaza but who cares right? They make software that is worth using so we should keep giving them money. No problem.


It will become a problem for us if lemmy isn’t funded, won’t it?
So does the Fairphone.


Another place where Europe needs to throw off the US shackles. Import and exporting goods is not a problem, but allowing one country to monopolise your critical infrastructure is a decision that’s beyond stupid. Sometimes the decision is forced, but once there is power to eject the monopoly and the decision is made not to, that’s incredibly stupid.
The Trump administrations showing their true colors has been the eye opener the world needed.


What a surprise. I makes me think of the US women treating Eastern Asian women who married western men like whores, victims, or gold-diggers. Many people think about the world locally, not internationally. They apply their ways of thinking to the rest of the world and have trouble understanding that what is normal for me isn’t normal for you (and vice versa). They have trouble understanding that things aren’t always as they seem and making a summary judgement about a person from a short slice of their life, which they can interpret wrong, does not a person make.
There must be an Icelandic community that complained about suddenly seeing English letters in their text https://codeberg.org/rimu/pyfedi/issues/1559