China isn’t allowed to use advanced expensive US models. And US nationals can’t afford advanced expensive US models so they want to use Chinese models.

What a weird situation. Huh?

Cool. A full specification seems fair. I wonder how much copyright would hinder their goals here for forcing the full code. And I could see companies eventually constructing licensing and other structures that basically mean every bit of the core functionally of the server is actually licensed from or provided by a vendor as a shield.

Could the code be released but encumbered by licenses or copyright? Seems like something else to navigate.

I support the idea of games not being killed. I just find the demands very surprising. And can see why this is an uphill battle.

They are still running Destiny 1. So, they are better than most live service providers in one particular way. At the moment at least.

Destiny 1 came out about a decade ago.

Gooners don’t use Apple products anyway. Right??

Would an API specification be acceptable? I’m surprised they are demanding source code at all.

But I liked Destiny.

But that would ironically be killing a subset of games.

We are pro-life here, right? /s

Oof, the worst timing.

DoorDash supplanting meals on wheels is terrible. I don’t mean to argue otherwise.

I think awareness of the options was really low, though. And that’s probally what I’m speaking to. And I expect my ignorance was shared. I see your point though. And I can see how I was speaking from ignorance there.

While maybe more people are aware of a way to deliver food and basic supplies in the era of DoorDash, I never really meant to defend them. It just made sense to me that the pervasiveness of DoorDash is improving access. But it’s definitely not improving affordability. Not at all, holy shit.

Pizza every day isn’t great.

And those other contexts were not as pervasive as DoorDash has become.

Oh, that’s probally true. But those were a long time ago. And the users were still self selecting and in the right headspace.

We have crossed a threshold with the internet and awareness of possible places to be a shithead at these days. If you know what I mean. A certain mentality bands together to seek out how to fuck these spaces up, now.

It’s like the early days of VR. The social spaces were great until VR got cheaper and more common. Now you need to hunt out the good groups and social circles and they are hard to find.

Well, it’s definitely tangential. The only overlap is how their refunds don’t actually fix anything and there is no path to actually addressing the original customer intent. A new order would be more money, and a gamble on the same error happening (maybe even intentional neglect by the people at the restaurant). And having to go out and get it yourself breaks the whole reason you engaged with the company at all.

It’s a very broken customer service system they have. And it has to be that way to keep their margins.

It’ll take a lot of effort to keep the systems from being exploitable like that, I expect. And maybe so much structure will be needed that it’ll become rather un-fun.

I use to be excited about such systems and ideas in games. But I’ve come to realize that players will break and ruin anything you put in front of them.

It’s like DoorDash giving you a partial refund and not actually getting you what you ordered when there is a fuckup by the restaurant.

How satisfied are you with your customer support? I didn’t get what I fucking ordered!

It makes this supposedly being an American phone even more ironic.

woof. Why can’t platforms just be themselves.

Also, Twitter tried this under Elon and recently changed their minds after, I assume, it didn’t work out like they had hoped?

Ratchet effect.

“It will be a federated decentralized face database that lives on each users phone.”

Yeah, it’s really sad.

lol what? I’ve never heard this stereotype.