Perfect!

I stand corrected.

Clearly I am the deficient party here.

Really nailed that aneurysm zinger, btw.

I may not be funny, but you’re goddamn hilarious.

Not only do you clearly have no idea what playing devil’s advocate means, conceptually, like at all, but you keep trying to pigeonhole it into your little argument and it has me crying bro, I’m dying laughing.

I can’t believe you’re a real person.

Ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

And you still haven’t provided a single quote of mine showing me what you’re accusing me of.

You literally just said:

“The Defender of Apple” or whatever is in your fucked up head.

But when I ask you to provide a single example of my defending Apple, you respond with:

Man does your brain twist up in pretzels when you think like that?

Obviously you are not acting in good faith, but we knew that from the start.

So are you just incapable of admitting you made a mistake?

I do appreciate the irony of you saying that my mind is twisted up like a pretzel, just beautiful 10/10.

Please show me where I defended the Apple corporation.

Because me thinks you can’t read good.

But don’t worry, there’s a school for that:

And you either didn’t read the entire thread, or you agree that OP is morally superior to anyone who uses Apple products, and that Apple users are people that should just be hated.

So which is it?

You’re a sad little creature.

If I didn’t hold you in such contempt, I would pity you.

I don’t disagree.

But my comment was a direct response to the user ranting about their superiority to, and hatred of, anyone who uses Apple products.

It’s not my reading comprehension that’s to blame for your rancid hatred of Apple users and I’m confident that your behavior is repulsive to more people than just me.

The irony is that I use Linux for desktop and Graphene for mobile so my objections are not rooted in defending my own consumer choices, they’re based entirely on your pathetic blind hatred of people who use Apple products.

What argument…?

Out of nowhere, you just started talking shit about Apple users to make yourself feel superior about your individual consumer choices, really cool bro.

Also unclear who I was making fun of, unless you consider pointing out how absurd your Apple user hate is, to be making fun of you.

But that’s not making fun of you, it’s pointing out how pathetic your unprompted and vocal hatred for Apple users was.

The only people worse than Apple fans, are Apple haters.

Because I see a lot of vocal Apple haters on Lemmy, just shitting all over Apple users, but I rarely see Apple users here shitting on Android or anything else.

That’s currently in QA as we speak… Slated to go live Q1 2026.

I am very aware of how this will be leveraged to attack the people and groups who are opposed to genocide.

I was very specific about who my apathy was for.

Additionally, after a mod removed my first post, I revise and resubmitted it. This time doing a cursory glance at the the people who run that synagogue.

To the surprise of no one, they’re pro-genocide, anti-Palestinian self-determination, and outspoken Zionist political activists.

And for 26th time, I am anti-violence and do not condone, support, or sanctify this attack. Furthermore, their beliefs do not justify violence, and if one’s goals are to end the genocide, this type of violence makes that harder.

I can’t speak to the motivations for its removal.

For all I know a bunch of users reported my comment and a mod removed it accidentally because they’re overworked or tired.

I’m not trying to denigrate the work they do, just highlighting a small issue that I personally had.

And to be fair, my original comment was less articulate and more to the point, so perhaps the fault was mine for not providing the proper disclaimers about my positions regarding the rejection of violence. I thought I had, but I can accept that others may have interpreted it in ways that I did not intend.

Mods removed my comment for saying I don’t have the emotional energy left to care about attacks on pro-genocide groups.

Not that I supported killing them, or that I endorsed this attack, but that it’s hard for me expend emotional energy caring about an in-group actively engaged in a genocide.

I also went out of my way to explain how Israel’s role in conflating Judaism with Zionism is a key reason why I feel that way.

And let me be clear: this attack was wrong and it is 100% counterproductive to bringing an end to the genocide.

I do not support or condone this violence, but I will not be guilted into having a different emotional response just because others find it more acceptable

And while I strongly feel that my own background should have no bearing on the conversation, I will point out that I was raised in a Jewish Zionist household. So please don’t tell me how I’m a self-hating Jew, anti-semitic, or otherwise racially prejudiced against myself.

With all of that out of the way, let’s take a closer look at the target of this attack:

Rabbi Daniel Walker serves as co-chair of the community and interfaith committees of the JRC and has been the Rabbi of the Heaton Park Hebrew Congregation since 2008.

He has previously held a number of rabbinic and educational positions in Israel and the UK.

Rabbi Walker was educated at Manchester Jewish Grammar School and went on to study in yeshivas in the USA and Israel, where he received his ordination in 2003.

How does Rabbi Walkers JRC organization view the conflict? Would it shock to learn that oppose Palistinain self-determination, and do not consider the conflict to be a genocide?

As an organisation, we are appalled by the motion passed by Labour delegates on the Middle East conflict. To agree to the text without referencing the atrocities committed by Hamas on 7th October 2023 when 1,200 innocent people were murdered or the fact they continue to hold 48 hostages means they have no credibility to comment on what is an extremely complex issue.

The fact a more moderate motion that did reference these key facts was defeated highlights how many seem unmotivated to work towards a peaceful solution to the conflict. The text is not binding and we will continue holding conversations with key stakeholders within government to advocate against taking divisive and deeply problematic positions.

During our time at Conference we have held a number of meetings with Ministers, MPs and the press focusing on our concerns around the record levels of antisemitic hate crime across society. We also reiterated our strong opposition to the unilateral recognition of Palestine, supported the Government’s position on proscribing Palestine Action, highlighted concerns around antisemitism in cultural spaces including the need to cancel events by those who incite hatred whilst emphasising the importance of holding the Iranian regime to account by enforcing snapback sanctions.

This is an Orthodox Zionist organization helmed by an yeshiva educated conservatives. They are explicitly against Palestinian self-determination and who don’t express an ounce of sympathy or concern for the Palestinians being slaughtered.

For a final time, this attack was wrong. Violence is wrong. This should not be supported, celebrated, or sanctified.

But please don’t censor people who are expressing valid feelings about how they emotionally process attacks against organizations of unashamedly racial supremacists, who are actively part of the in group currently perpetrating a genocide.

This is also relevant discussion to this topic because it speaks to a larger issue facing the Jewish community and public sentiment and opinions that are only getting worse, whether they express themselves through inexcusable violence like today, or by people having tragically apathetic emotional responses to violence.

Once again, I never said that I supported violence, or endorsed this attack.

Because yes, I agree that this will result in a counterproductive backlash to my own desire to see the end of the genocide in Gaza.

But because of that genocide, and Israel’s 's full-throated efforts to remove any separation between Zionism and Judaism, I find myself with a lack of emotional energy available to care about the in-group perpetrating that genocide.

That is very different from celebrating this attack.

What the fuck…?

Dude, I am not celebrating this violence.

No, genocidal religious fascism made me not care about the deaths of their in-group.