Yeah, don’t listen to anybody who says “they can’t fine me or sue me if I’m in a different state” or “they can’t do anything about it if they win.” Of course we don’t know who they’ll target when they start enforcing the law, and it’s possible that the law will be found unconstitutional … still, they can fine you, and they can sue, so if you decide not to geoblock them yet make sure you’re thinking through the risks.

I haven’t seen anything yet on how strong a defense geoblocking Mississippi will be in practice. Bluesky obviously thinks it puts them in a stronger position than not geoblocking, but at this point we really don’t know.

It’s ignorant how you don’t realize that Spark and Blacksky have built their own stacks on AT Protocol.

Most do but not all. And similarly most of the replies on Mastodon show up here but not all. So to follow the entire conversation you have to look in both places.

Thanks for the update. It really is exhausting, and depressing; you’re right about Wyoming being next, and there’s loads of others out there as well.

And It really is our fight to. Laws like this are part of a worldwide attack on independent social media, as well as trans and queer people, people looking for reproductive health care, youth in general, and sex workers. It’s a really challenging situation.

yeah it really is tiring and depressing. It isn’t clear what the risks really are right now, and how that might change over time. It’s also not completely clear how much geoblocking will reduce the risks’ at least with the Online Safety Act, regulators said earlier this year that geoblocking is sufficient – although of course they could change their minds at some point. Really hard to know what to do …

Joys of federation. https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/30731823/16032284

Other apps can ignore the geoblock. From the Bluesky announcement:

This decision applies only to the Bluesky app, which is one service built on the AT Protocol. Other apps and services may choose to respond differently.

Yeah. Interesting to think if there are ways to get around that problem. Still, very interesting work @rozodru@lemmy.world, and great idea splitting it out into an extension!

Yep. Ryan (the only BridgyFed dev at the time) really did absorb the feedback and changed direction, and Anuj also gets the importance of consent.

wafrn and Hubzilla both do this. But in general, developers of most ActivityPub-based platforms prefer to focus on AP, and already have a lot on their plate; Bluesky wants to focus on AT, and similarly has a lot on their plate; and most users don’t actually care that much … so nobody’s likely to prioritize it.

It’s an interesting perspective. Historically the fediverse was more European; Mastodon is based in Germany and initially got a lot of traction in France, NLNet has contributed a lot of the funding, and there’s historically more adoption by European governmental organizations than US. But these days a lot of the energy is being driven by corporate interests (Flipboard, Wordpress, Meta, Ghost) which are primarily American (Ghost being the only exception), so that’s leading to a change of dynamics. Distressing, especially given what’s going on here in the US!

Thanks! “Feckless” is a good description of the admin response :)

Great points … and yes that is a key question!

Yes there several english-speaking instances running Misskey or a fork. Here’s the list for Sharkey - https://fedidb.org/software/sharkey

Misskey’s a vibrant colorful very interactive experience

Bluesky’s a very good Twitter alternative, at least for now, although it’s owned by a VC-funded startup so we’ll see how long that lasts

Mastodon (and even moreso forks like Glitch and Hometown) are good if you want a small-to-medium size community along with the ability to be part of broader conversations. It can be a decent Twitter alternative for some people (especially white techies) but Bluesky’s a lot more usable, easy to get started on, and diverse.

Thanks for the clarifications!

Yeah, it’s somewhat useful but certainly not a great solution. It’s great that they went the opt-in route, but there aren’t any good existing frameworks for how to do it, so they had to roll their own. There’s certainly room for improvement, it would be great if either Bluesky or the Social Web Foundation (or both) or somebody else invested in it, but hard to know if and when thta’ll happen.

There isn’t direct federation between Mastodon and Bluesky; instead, Bridgy Fed connects them - https://fed.brid.gy/docs#fediverse-get-started

Have a look here https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/post/17718832/11190856

As Strypey acknowledges, there’s a lot he didn’t know about at the time and left out. Before Mastodon: GNU Social and other early fediverses includes a lot of that.