Yeah, they used to. It’s really starting to be the “not Republican” party…

Super sucks, hope to turn it around though.

Me too, thanks!

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You dropped these

I think you missed the part where I framed it as if I was having a conversation with the person? You’re clearly angry about my choice of literary devices. Sorry to upset you.

Have a nice day.

That makes sense.

I believe in a majority of my posts debating the “both sides” comments I’m arguing that changing the Dems to a progressive party is more manageable than standing up a third party in the USA.

I know the primaries are shaky due to the DNC leadership, but I haven’t changed my belief that it can be changed. Thanks for the well wishes. I’m just frustrated with the solution-less complaining.

Because most people know what a rhetorical question is?

Read one of my other replies?

Yeah, it makes it so much worse. They need to be primaried.

You’re right, I asked a rhetorical question to make a point.

Moo

Nope, you sound like a tankie, no shock there. I said what I said about my surprise.

I understand your feelings, but I’m no DNC rep. I AM trying to change them though.

I’m not ignoring their problems, but I’m not going to sit still and act like treating them the same as the GOP is helpful. They aren’t a hardline cult the way the GOP is, and this is a consequence of that.

I think we’re in violent agreement politics wise. I think we disagree on how to change that though.

Totally! Which is shit. We can still get progressive candidates in as has been shown, and gradually change the party though. Do as much as possible and fight against them "Bernie"ing the progressive candidates.

Comments that sow disinterest and apathy create worse problems than fighting for change though.

In my initial post I asked about standing up a new party?

I have organized with my neighbors.

I’m lucky, I haven’t had any of my Mexican family abducted. I’m sorry that you have.

I have done local actions to support local progressives.

I’m shocked that you are making comments that cause disinterest in people participating in politics while also claiming to canvas for your local politicians though.

I believe that pushing for local progressives is the best path forward to fixing the Dem party. I HATE people pushing complaints and generalizations like the Dems have the same hard line that the GOP does.

You have no merit to me either. You jump to name calling very quickly. You make a lot of claims and provide no solutions.

I’m not simping for the Dems. But I’m also not going to play games and act like ignoring them will help when it’s more helpful to convert them to progressives

What words did I put into your mouth? You’re complaining on a forum and generalizing a group. Now I’m complaining about your complaint.

Then you called me a loser because you’d rather do that than admit you’re doing nothing to help the situation.

Great! Let’s do that. I don’t even know if they exist still, I never see them as an option to vote for in primaries.

Do you want the Dem party to run more like the GOP where it’s very much the way you describe?

I don’t think the Dem party is as corrupt as the GOP, so they don’t tend to stick to hard line beliefs.

I disagree with the actions of the entire GOP and those 8 dems but just thought I’d add perspective.

So let’s start a progressive party!

Oh, you’re not going to? Then stop generalizing the dems and start primarying the fascists.

It’s easier to get progressives into the current party structure than to start a new party.

Only if you’re going to do something about it.

You didn’t read the article. They didn’t need any Democrats to pass this.

I didn’t make a mistake. I understood the intent. You decided it was a mistake because you like playing with semantics. You’re a semantichist (hah! See what I did there?)

They chose a headline that catches attention, and it bothered you enough to warrant your attention too. Effective. Communication. The words that were chosen had the intended effect.