Dear Rivals @Game NewsRecently, we’ve received feedback fromplayers regarding an issue where someindividuals playing in compatibility layerprograms have been mistakenly flagged ascheaters, even without using any cheatingsoftware. This has resulted in bans. Wesincerely apologize for this situation andwant to assure you that we do not & will noban players who are playing fairly andwithout cheating.
We have identified the specific reasonsbehind these false bans and have compileda list of affected players. We have liftedthese bans and want to express ourheartfelt apologies for the inconveniencethis has caused.
Our mission is to provide all players with afair, just, and enjoyable gamingenvironment. Therefore, preventing andidentifying cheaters is one of our toppriorities. We have invested significantmanpower and resources to improve thespeed and accuracy of our detectionsystems. With any any ongoing detectionsystem, there is always room forimprovement. We appreciate yourassistance in helping us tackle thischallenge. If you encounter any cheatingbehavior, please report it immediately; ourreporting system will respond promptly. Ifyou believe you have been wrongly banned,you can appeal to our customer supportteam, and we will review your case andrespond in a timely manner. You can reachthe support team via either in-game or inDiscord!
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Apex should take notes. Sadly, they won’t.
I agree, but, to be fair, WINE is not an emulator, it’s a translation layer. It may seem like it doesn’t matter but it’s an important distinction.
Tbf the devs said “compatibility layer”
Can you explain more what are the differences?
In an emulator you’re capable of running a piece of software in a hardware that it wasn’t designed to be run. In Wine you still need a hardware originally designed for the game (x86 CPU, graphics card, etc) because it only fakes that it is being executed under Windows by providing Windows APIs, but the underlying hardware must still be compatible.
Okay thx
They are similar, but generally emulators have a higher run-time cost - this is because they are “emulating” an entire system, not just translating system calls. By cost, I mean performance of course. Emulators typically simulate/mimic other hardware, whereas translation layers just convert the system calls to be run natively on your existing hardware (which means your CPU architecture must match, etc).
Wine is far faster than regular emulation would traditionally be.
Okay thank you
Aren’t these the guys who disallow the term “Taiwan is a country” and “Free Tibet” in their chat system?
Not sure how that’s relevant to them knowing about Linux gaming and caring to ensure it’ll work properly despite proper anti-cheat.
Can we at least cheer that on?
Not just that, but I think it’s important information to disseminate because it can be used to hold other game’s developer’s feet to the fire.
At the end of the day the WINE community is doing absolutely free work to allow game devs to reach a wider audience, and with the sunsetting of Win10 this year, that’s going to be more important than ever. While not a huge marketshare, there are plenty of users like me that will just straight up not play a game if it doesn’t work under WINE.
Not sure why you were downvoted, you are correct. You can’t even say “Winnie the Pooh”.
https://gamerant.com/marvel-rivals-banned-words-winnie-the-pooh/
NetEase is the developer of Marvel Rivals. They are a huge Chinese based company, they have ties to the CCP.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NetEase https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marvel_Rivals
Chinese based company, they have ties to the CCP.
This is redundant
agreed. they already told us the company is based, no need to tell they have ties to the ccp
HAHAHAHAHAHA GOTEM
It’ll be funny when undead are removed from the original version of WoW.
What is the other meaning of undead?
Undead are just a lot more vulgar in chinese culture.
Specifically skeletons are a big deal. Lots of games edit them out, WoW had alternate models for the Undead players, who generally have exposed bone joints and other bits of bone protrusions, to cover them all in flesh. I think it is sometimes OK to use skeletons as enemies, but never for player characters, IIRC.
You can’t show exposed bone, I don’t know if that applies to WoW but it’s why LoL lost their skeleton
Not sure why you were downvoted, you are correct. You can’t even say “Winnie the Pooh”.
Censoring westerners that keep being racist is good actually.
NetEase is the developer of Marvel Rivals. They are a huge Chinese based company, they have ties to the CCP.
The CPC keeps a close eye on the companies in China. This is not a bad thing like you are framing. If you wanna point out to a real problematic case then point at Call Of Duty for being a military propaganda tool.
Criticizing or making fun of a nations leader is not racist. In fact, the comparison originates from China.
Maybe you should do a little more research before you jump to conclusions just because China is involved. Based on your instance, I doubt this is going to happen though. You’ll just go back to your echo chamber where anything critical of dictators is bad and must come from the west. They’ll probably agree with you, despite it being incredibly easy to learn more.
Criticizing or making fun of a nations leader is not racist. In fact, the comparison originates from China.
Then go ahead, actually criticize Xi instead of associating him with a yellow bear, which is definitely not racist, no no no, not racist at all.
You’ll just go back to your echo chamber where anything critical of dictators is bad and must come from the west. They’ll probably agree with you, despite it being incredibly easy to learn more.
LMAO, then fucking prove China is a “dictatorship”. You libs keep repeating the same “China bad”, EBIL SEESEEPEE with zero self awareness of how the west is actually looting, underdeveloping and actively destroying the rest of the world.
Prove it? Sure. It’s a system where the singular ruling party controls elections and all candidates must be approved by them. If that’s not a dictatorship then I’ve never heard of one.
You can argue it provides utility or stability or something if you want, but arguing it isn’t a dictatorship shows how ignorant you are. Of course it’s exactly what I’d expect though.
I don’t know how the west doing anything bad is relevant to this conversation. It was never part of the discussion and is purely a red-herring to distract from your bad faith argument.
Also, once again, the Pooh Bear thing is from China. It isn’t racist. It has nothing to do with race. It’s making fun of him being fat and the way he presents himself as clean and kind. Prove it is, since you’re asking for proof of basic stuff we all know.
Prove it? Sure. It’s a system where the singular ruling party controls elections and all candidates must be approved by them. If that’s not a dictatorship then I’ve never heard of one.
A single party system is not inherently undemocratic, we communists believe in democratic centralism. The CPC is the dominant party in China, but there are multiple other parties in the country.
You can argue it provides utility or stability or something if you want, but arguing it isn’t a dictatorship shows how ignorant you are. Of course it’s exactly what I’d expect though.
No, it shows how ignorant YOU are, since you clearly don’t even understand how different political systems can be democratic. Your vision of democracy is limited and is easily dismantled by showing how in the US, for example, you have basically a two-party system that at the end of the day serves the same purpose, to continue to impose the dictatorship of the bourgeoisie upon the working class, or how you libs call it, “western democracy”. Your lack of class analysis in China’s system fails to account for how the CPC represents the proletariat instead of the bourgeoisie and how that completely changes the inner functions of said country and society.
I don’t know how the west doing anything bad is relevant to this conversation. It was never part of the discussion and is purely a red-herring to distract from your bad faith argument.
You can’t be serious, right? You can’t simply point fingers at a country with a bunch of false claims and not expect a direct comparison with how the rest of the world does stuff to dismantle the argument. The implication in this discussion is that China and the CPC is a bad evil dictatorship that oppresses people and curbs their freedom of speech. By pointing out how the west does things I’m providing a counter argument of the false claims. You can’t simply claim a bunch of stuff in a vacuum without directly comparing with how the it in the rest of the world, it’s disingenuous. Do you not understand how arguments work?
Also, once again, the Pooh Bear thing is from China. It isn’t racist. It has nothing to do with race. Prove it is, since you’re asking for proof of basic stuff we all know.
Oh stop playing dumb. You know very well that it is racist to associate a Chinese person with a yellow character. Also, it doesn’t matter where it comes from. Pepe and the Ok sign didn’t start as hate symbols, both were turned into one. If you can’t see how westerners constantly calling and depicting Xi Jinping as Pooh isn’t racist, then you’re the racist.
It’s making fun of him being fat and the way he presents himself as clean and kind.
Oh so according to you it’s not racist, it’s just fatphobic AND racist since by saying he “presents clean and kind” you’re implying he is neither of those things. Definitely not racist to imply that a Chinese person is unclean and unkind. Fuck off.
Oh so according to you it’s not racist, it’s just fatphobic AND racist since by saying he “presents clean and kind” you’re implying he is neither of those things. Definitely not racist to imply that a Chinese person is unclean and unkind. Fuck off.
It was the fucking people in China making the comparison! Come on. You keep ignoring this in order to just say westerners are evil. That’s why bringing up western stuff doesn’t matter because the conversation isn’t about any of that. It’s about the comparison of President Xi to Pooh Bear. You just keep swerving around trying to hit a different target because the actual conversation doesn’t work in your favor.
Clean, meaning morally, no he isn’t. Kind, not so much. He presents as if he’s a perfect story book character, like Pooh Bear (hence the comparison), but he wouldn’t still be in power if this were the case. The people in China recognize this, which is why they started the comparison. It spread to the west because of the outsized response to it. It’s the Streisand Effect. It was funny how insulted he was by this that it started being banned, so it spread because his fragile ego couldn’t handle it.
Is it fat-phobic? Probably. Is it racist? Hell no. It’s just making fun of someone with a fragile ego with someone he’s made public that he’s insulted by. Implying it’s racist because Pooh Bear is yellow is just trying to shut it up by making shit up. It has nothing to do with that. It’s just what the Chinese picked to make fun of him with.
companies based in country have to follow rules of said country.
If you don’t believe in that you can try to not follow sanctions and see what happens to your business.
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I like to make fun of people being bad at math, asking them what 1988+1 is.
Taiwan is part of China and Tibet is already free, why should they allow such reactionary comments to begin with?
That depends who you ask.
And China is part of the US, because I just said so. It doesn’t matter what the people of China think because I said this and nothing else matters.
Is “incompatible layer programs” code for emulators?
WINE Is Not an Emulator
A lot of games rely on Windows system commands for things like displaying graphics, saving files, etc. Proton translates those commands into commands that Linux can understand. Proton doesn’t mimic the game. Proton mimics Windows.
Yep. And just to be a little more precise, since the distinction is a bit subtle: an emulator typically involves translating byte code so that you can run a binary on different hardware. A compatibility layer translates OS calls so that a binary can run on different software.
In the latter case, the binary still runs, as is, directly on the CPU because it’s compiled for the same instruction set architecture (x86_64, in this case).
I think they mean Wine or Proton
I guess technically, but you’ll have to wait until someone smarter than me comes along. This is likely referring to Linux users playing the game through a proton compat layer.
Not even technically, actually. Wine and proton are translation layers that basically provide a dictionary of system calls so that Windows-specific ones can be translated to Linux calls instead
Right on time, someone smarter than me.
Really though, I didn’t know whether or not that would be emulation, so thank you. I guess I better look’er up
Yup, this was a ban wave that hit Linux desktop and Steamdeck players.
The main issue was people playing in virtual machines on Macs. Wine/proton was already whitelisted
