The amount if killing and bomb dropped on gaza is more than those of russia ukraine like three of four time or something like that. But they cant say a single word of condemnation !
Israel kills more civilians in Gaza in twoa days than Russia kills in Ukraine in a month.
(Edit: checked the numbers and in 3 years Russia had killed 12,605 civilians whilst the last reliable numbers we had in Gaza - before the hospitals were destroyed - for the first 6 months in Gaza were 42,000, so the rate of civilians murdered per day by Israel is about 20x higher, so not quite “more in a day than in a month”, hence my edit)
Russias killed far more than 12k, its well recorded there are mass graves in places such as Mariupol with a unknown number of bodies. The UN itself has specifically verified at least 30k and given the numbers of missing persons its likely to be in the hundreds of thousands.
A rough estimate suggests there are 40 to 50 million evangelical Christians who actively support Zionism, with the majority residing in the U.S. and other Western countries.
Russias killed far more than 12k, its well recorded there are mass graves in places such as Mariupol with a unknown number of bodies. The UN itself has specifically verified at least 30k and given the numbers of missing persons its likely to be in the hundreds of thousands.
From your own link, under “Millions displaced, thousands dead”: “30,457 civilian casualties since 24 February 2022, including 10,582 killed and 19,875 injured” (emphasys mine).
I actually used a larger number I found in a different website (but I lost the link for that) because that latter article was from a later date and had the numbers for 3 years of war.
Apparently and in your own words, the UN is “regurgitating Russian propaganda numbers”.
Whatever motivates you to post this, it ain’t a need for Justice or an abhorrence for the murder of civilians.
And fuck you for the last line, I’ve actively fund raised for Ukraine and have donated to Ukrainian causes along with helping Ukrainian refugees.
You seem preoccupied gaining virtue points via shoving Palestine into every single discussion about Ukraine, when lets face it as much as I do feel for the Palestinians and what Israel is doing is abhorrent HAMAS did kill over a thousand people in cold blood along with repeatedly violating cease fires which lead to a (over)reaction.
I wanna bet you’re german (the hanseatic league, right?) and your country made billions selling weapons to israel and ukraine. Your efforts are interested and so are your blind spot.
What really reveals your true colors there is how, after all your talk about your own supposedly humanitarianism and good deeds and your 100%-Projection statements on my motivations, you end with an “whatabout Hamas”.
This from the very same person who, in another thread under this same post, responded to my pointing out the hypocrisy of the British Government with
“Whataboutism”.
Your “I’m a good guy” right alongside when it comes to Israel a “but HAMAS” is pretty much the hypocritical propaganda of the British Government whose critique of which by me prompted your flurry of responses.
It’s not concern for innocents being murdered or abhorence for Genocide that motivates you - if it was you wouldn’t be looking for ways to excuse some of the Genociders and treat their victims (far more in number than those of the other Genociders) as less important as if some lives were less important than others.
This is going around in circles, fuck you, fuck your attempted moral high horsing & Слава Україні. Ive already said what Israel is doing is abhorrent and you were the one initially to pull the whataboutism and drag Palestine into a thread about Ukraine.
If that’s your take on my words, you either haven’t read my other comments here or you’re just another mindless tribalist clapping at anything that aligns with you views without even the slightest bit of analysis and viewing the world as “if you’re not with us, you’re against us”, just like the MAGA crowd does.
The UK is the worst possible country to make such a suggestion because their actual actions in other, similar situations happening right now, are the very opposite of the principles they claim to want to uphold here - the people with fresh children’s blood on their hands aren’t the ones best suited to convince the World of the need for Justice.
The British politicians are de facto worsening the chances for Justice for Ukrainians (not even just Palestinians, whom they’re actually helping murder in large numbers) because the leaders and even the people in most nations in the World do not believe their haughty words demanding “Justice” while their hands are dripping with the blood of innocents, are anything other than a geopolitical powerplay and propaganda: they’re making it less likely that the World outside the West gets together with the West to make sure Putin and his cronies get the punishment they deserve.
This New Nuremberg idea would be far more likely to succeed if this suggestion came from a country like Spain or the Republic Of Ireland who have been Fair and Just in the matter of Genocide, and not involve Britain in any way form or shape, than coming from or involving Britain, where the concept of “Justice” is so flexible that the race of the Genociders and their victims means that the “We must have a trial like Nuremberg” (which, by the way, should be done for both cases) is only for some Genocides whilst “We must continue to ship weapons [to the Genociders]” is for other Genociders, depending on the ethnicity of them and their victims.
You are the one supporting the people who for petty political propaganda gains just had to go and parade themselves as the voice of the Justice Of The West whilst their actions say the very opposite, thus damaging things like International Rule Of Law and the West’s voice on this by entrenching the idea that the reactions of the West are all hypocrisy (which they’re not in many Western countries, but definitely are in Britain).
Only somebody motivated by British Nationalism and/or deeply brainwashed by the Press Environment in Britain (which is as bad as in the US) would think the UK is in any way form or shape a trusted spokesperson for the rest of the World on International Law and Justice Against Genociders, and that their hypocrite proclamations on this would inspire the World to come together for Justice and advance that cause.
Like a run of the mill sociopaths, for petty political point scoring and for the sake of doing a bit of a “we matter in the World” performance for internal consumption, these assholes are damaging the very thing they claim to defend.
If British politicians really wanted this that they’re now suggesting to happen, they would’ve had some backroom discussions with other Western nations and gotten a more trustworthy country (which is not right now actively supporting a different Genocide) to voice this suggestion, only they didn’t because this was never about Justice against Genociders or Humanitarianism.
How about israel?
The amount if killing and bomb dropped on gaza is more than those of russia ukraine like three of four time or something like that. But they cant say a single word of condemnation !
Israel kills more civilians in Gaza in two
adays than Russia kills in Ukraine in a month.(Edit: checked the numbers and in 3 years Russia had killed 12,605 civilians whilst the last reliable numbers we had in Gaza - before the hospitals were destroyed - for the first 6 months in Gaza were 42,000, so the rate of civilians murdered per day by Israel is about 20x higher, so not quite “more in a day than in a month”, hence my edit)
Russias killed far more than 12k, its well recorded there are mass graves in places such as Mariupol with a unknown number of bodies. The UN itself has specifically verified at least 30k and given the numbers of missing persons its likely to be in the hundreds of thousands.
Stop regurgitating Russian propaganda numbers.
https://news.un.org/en/story/2024/02/1146842
zionist
Interesting.
A rough estimate suggests there are 40 to 50 million evangelical Christians who actively support Zionism, with the majority residing in the U.S. and other Western countries.
Keep your cheap antisemitic trope for yourself.
https://lemm.ee/comment/7116388
Ok, Trump supporter.
how did you come to this conclusion? Ahaha
Everything can be antisemitic when you change what have been said
From your own link, under “Millions displaced, thousands dead”: “30,457 civilian casualties since 24 February 2022, including 10,582 killed and 19,875 injured” (emphasys mine).
I actually used a larger number I found in a different website (but I lost the link for that) because that latter article was from a later date and had the numbers for 3 years of war.
Apparently and in your own words, the UN is “regurgitating Russian propaganda numbers”.
Whatever motivates you to post this, it ain’t a need for Justice or an abhorrence for the murder of civilians.
Oh boo hoo I skim read something.
https://www.cfr.org/global-conflict-tracker/conflict/conflict-ukraine?enrollerid=101686 40k dead https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/over-12300-civilians-killed-since-start-ukraine-war-un-says-2025-01-08/ over 12k dead Possibly biased but state prosecutor of Ukraine estimates around 100k civilians dead https://uk.news.yahoo.com/ukraine-war-how-many-people-have-been-killed-since-putin-invasion-100628450.html https://www.pravda.com.ua/eng/news/2025/02/3/7496547/ https://www.france24.com/en/europe/20240416-ukraine-identifies-37-000-people-missing-warns-figure-may-be-much-higher-war tens of thousands are confirmed missing, likely under reported.
And fuck you for the last line, I’ve actively fund raised for Ukraine and have donated to Ukrainian causes along with helping Ukrainian refugees.
You seem preoccupied gaining virtue points via shoving Palestine into every single discussion about Ukraine, when lets face it as much as I do feel for the Palestinians and what Israel is doing is abhorrent HAMAS did kill over a thousand people in cold blood along with repeatedly violating cease fires which lead to a (over)reaction.
I wanna bet you’re german (the hanseatic league, right?) and your country made billions selling weapons to israel and ukraine. Your efforts are interested and so are your blind spot.
What really reveals your true colors there is how, after all your talk about your own supposedly humanitarianism and good deeds and your 100%-Projection statements on my motivations, you end with an “whatabout Hamas”.
This from the very same person who, in another thread under this same post, responded to my pointing out the hypocrisy of the British Government with
Your “I’m a good guy” right alongside when it comes to Israel a “but HAMAS” is pretty much the hypocritical propaganda of the British Government whose critique of which by me prompted your flurry of responses.
It’s not concern for innocents being murdered or abhorence for Genocide that motivates you - if it was you wouldn’t be looking for ways to excuse some of the Genociders and treat their victims (far more in number than those of the other Genociders) as less important as if some lives were less important than others.
This is going around in circles, fuck you, fuck your attempted moral high horsing & Слава Україні. Ive already said what Israel is doing is abhorrent and you were the one initially to pull the whataboutism and drag Palestine into a thread about Ukraine.
Edit: wrong comment, sry.
My man, you are making excuses for the Russian Federation, who are currently genociding Ukrainian’s along with other Russian minority groups.
Why?
Nobody’s making excuse for anything. We’re questionning the authority of the UK since they pretty much support genocide themselves.
If that’s your take on my words, you either haven’t read my other comments here or you’re just another mindless tribalist clapping at anything that aligns with you views without even the slightest bit of analysis and viewing the world as “if you’re not with us, you’re against us”, just like the MAGA crowd does.
The UK is the worst possible country to make such a suggestion because their actual actions in other, similar situations happening right now, are the very opposite of the principles they claim to want to uphold here - the people with fresh children’s blood on their hands aren’t the ones best suited to convince the World of the need for Justice.
The British politicians are de facto worsening the chances for Justice for Ukrainians (not even just Palestinians, whom they’re actually helping murder in large numbers) because the leaders and even the people in most nations in the World do not believe their haughty words demanding “Justice” while their hands are dripping with the blood of innocents, are anything other than a geopolitical powerplay and propaganda: they’re making it less likely that the World outside the West gets together with the West to make sure Putin and his cronies get the punishment they deserve.
This New Nuremberg idea would be far more likely to succeed if this suggestion came from a country like Spain or the Republic Of Ireland who have been Fair and Just in the matter of Genocide, and not involve Britain in any way form or shape, than coming from or involving Britain, where the concept of “Justice” is so flexible that the race of the Genociders and their victims means that the “We must have a trial like Nuremberg” (which, by the way, should be done for both cases) is only for some Genocides whilst “We must continue to ship weapons [to the Genociders]” is for other Genociders, depending on the ethnicity of them and their victims.
You are the one supporting the people who for petty political propaganda gains just had to go and parade themselves as the voice of the Justice Of The West whilst their actions say the very opposite, thus damaging things like International Rule Of Law and the West’s voice on this by entrenching the idea that the reactions of the West are all hypocrisy (which they’re not in many Western countries, but definitely are in Britain).
Only somebody motivated by British Nationalism and/or deeply brainwashed by the Press Environment in Britain (which is as bad as in the US) would think the UK is in any way form or shape a trusted spokesperson for the rest of the World on International Law and Justice Against Genociders, and that their hypocrite proclamations on this would inspire the World to come together for Justice and advance that cause.
Like a run of the mill sociopaths, for petty political point scoring and for the sake of doing a bit of a “we matter in the World” performance for internal consumption, these assholes are damaging the very thing they claim to defend.
If British politicians really wanted this that they’re now suggesting to happen, they would’ve had some backroom discussions with other Western nations and gotten a more trustworthy country (which is not right now actively supporting a different Genocide) to voice this suggestion, only they didn’t because this was never about Justice against Genociders or Humanitarianism.
Also, being a genocide in both cases, the ratio to original population size would be relevant.