With recent events, yeeeeeeep. More and more people are protesting with their wallets. Either google getting told to break off companies and/or sell them (e.g. Chrome), they’re going to make some crazy moves for your dollar and that will trigger the peak of the outcry and you’ll see it happen. It’s not a noppppe or yepppp situation, it’s “when”. Better now than later.
I’m not paying a dime for Google or YouTube. (I know, I’m the product.) So how am I to vote with my wallet? Happy to stay on YouTube until they block my ad-blocker, then I’ll look around.
Happy to stay on YouTube until they block my ad-blocker, then I’ll look around.
They do block yt-dlp from downloading at least some account-and-login-required-to-view content now, which wasn’t historically the case, so they are slowly cracking down to some degree.
You’re not wrong. But it won’t happen because of this change, and it’s not going to happen tomorrow. So, as of now, they’re just complaining. I say ‘they’, because I left yt when they started video ads. I didn’t mind the banners, but the unskippable video disruptions were what broke my camel’s back (some of the early ones, if you recall, controlled your volume levels and turned themselves up). You’re right, eventually, everyone will hit a breaking point, but if the 60-120s unskippable video ads weren’t that point, this simple UI change won’t be that for the vast majority of users.
And while that’s possible for now, it won’t be for much longer, based on the A/B testing yt has been doing. We’re giving them too much power and relying on tools to bypass the stuff we don’t like, but those tools have their days numbered, regrettably.
Using the tools is fine IMO because the moment those tools stop working, people will move their time to Twitch/Instagram/Bluesky/TikTok/etc. 60-120 second ads will push away all, except for iPad toddlers.
Makes me wonder if Google knows this, and is deliberately adding these ridiculous ads, but not patching those tools, so they can keep their user metrics up while pushing the uninformed/indifferent into YouTube Premium subscriptions…
The day I can’t avoid advertisements is the day I drop the service. You want my money? Provide a product that isn’t trying to wring me and my data dry.
Video is expensive to host, I get that. I’d happily give a few bucks a month (which is way more than my ad views would be worth) but their asking price is laughable.
With recent events, yeeeeeeep. More and more people are protesting with their wallets. Either google getting told to break off companies and/or sell them (e.g. Chrome), they’re going to make some crazy moves for your dollar and that will trigger the peak of the outcry and you’ll see it happen. It’s not a noppppe or yepppp situation, it’s “when”. Better now than later.
I’m not paying a dime for Google or YouTube. (I know, I’m the product.) So how am I to vote with my wallet? Happy to stay on YouTube until they block my ad-blocker, then I’ll look around.
They do block
yt-dlpfrom downloading at least some account-and-login-required-to-view content now, which wasn’t historically the case, so they are slowly cracking down to some degree.You’re not wrong. But it won’t happen because of this change, and it’s not going to happen tomorrow. So, as of now, they’re just complaining. I say ‘they’, because I left yt when they started video ads. I didn’t mind the banners, but the unskippable video disruptions were what broke my camel’s back (some of the early ones, if you recall, controlled your volume levels and turned themselves up). You’re right, eventually, everyone will hit a breaking point, but if the 60-120s unskippable video ads weren’t that point, this simple UI change won’t be that for the vast majority of users.
Oh, I just block those.
And while that’s possible for now, it won’t be for much longer, based on the A/B testing yt has been doing. We’re giving them too much power and relying on tools to bypass the stuff we don’t like, but those tools have their days numbered, regrettably.
Using the tools is fine IMO because the moment those tools stop working, people will move their time to Twitch/Instagram/Bluesky/TikTok/etc. 60-120 second ads will push away all, except for iPad toddlers.
Makes me wonder if Google knows this, and is deliberately adding these ridiculous ads, but not patching those tools, so they can keep their user metrics up while pushing the uninformed/indifferent into YouTube Premium subscriptions…
The day I can’t avoid advertisements is the day I drop the service. You want my money? Provide a product that isn’t trying to wring me and my data dry.
Video is expensive to host, I get that. I’d happily give a few bucks a month (which is way more than my ad views would be worth) but their asking price is laughable.
Gonna have to pay tbh. But once I am paying, I would rather not pay Sundar the creep.
But we ain’t got a viable YouTube alternatives as of now