This feels like a short-term win but a long-term loss. Carney is a centrist, a former banker that’s in to a lot of conservative ideas. He feels like Biden 2.0, the conservatives only losing because of Trump’s unhinged rantings. MAGA-ism has gained a huge foothold in Canada, and turning to a do nothing centrist is only going to do so much.
I’m totally okay with taking a shot on someone who is actually educated and respected as opposed to a career politician.
Many Western nations are turning to political outsiders out of frustration with the status quo. Conservatives and the far right have more effectively tapped into that underlying desire and capitalized on it.
Here we have an outsider who isn’t a dog whistling regressive populist. That’s a huge win for Canada in my book.
Trump didnt cause the Conservatives to lose, they did that themselves with how they acted in spite of how Conservatives across the world were acting… and the fact that most of their platform revolved around just screaming “we’re not the liberals, we’re not trudeau”
they acted with an extreme amount of entitlement. that because the liberals had ruined the country for 10 years, it was now their turn. couple that with a lot of snide, childish shitposting, and an absolute bombardment of anti-trudeau ads and rhetoric, they basically bullied trudeau out of office, and once he was gone, they didnt have a platform anymore.
then enter the Trump , Trade war, and threats of Invasion shit. The conservatives basically waffled during this foreign policy crisis that pissed a lot of people off. the reality had changed and a lot of people felt like bringing a party that was polluted with the far right, was now no longer tenable.
He sounds like he’s ready to spend on capitol projects at the moment.
In his book he calls for government spending on capital projects in order to kick-start private investment in expanding their businesses (and payrolls, ultimately leading to more employees in better paid jobs and therefore at a higher taxable level)
Look, that’s great in the short term, but after what we’ve seen in the last 30 years, I don’t know how anyone can put any faith in private investment anymore. We’ve had 2 market crashes, at least 2 instances of severe real estate value depression, Vishna knows how many bailouts and what to show for it? Look at the telecoms in (frankly, anywhere, they’re all shit) the US - for a decade they put a surcharge on every single bill that was supposed to help them expand high-speed internet to all parts of the country, not to mention the billions of dollars the federal government provided. The result? Rural areas are still on dialup!
Eh. If Trump keeps sending shit our way it will be really easy to succeed against them. You know what happened to the British League of Fascists back in the day?
This feels like a short-term win but a long-term loss. Carney is a centrist, a former banker that’s in to a lot of conservative ideas. He feels like Biden 2.0, the conservatives only losing because of Trump’s unhinged rantings. MAGA-ism has gained a huge foothold in Canada, and turning to a do nothing centrist is only going to do so much.
I’m totally okay with taking a shot on someone who is actually educated and respected as opposed to a career politician.
Many Western nations are turning to political outsiders out of frustration with the status quo. Conservatives and the far right have more effectively tapped into that underlying desire and capitalized on it.
Here we have an outsider who isn’t a dog whistling regressive populist. That’s a huge win for Canada in my book.
Trump didnt cause the Conservatives to lose, they did that themselves with how they acted in spite of how Conservatives across the world were acting… and the fact that most of their platform revolved around just screaming “we’re not the liberals, we’re not trudeau”
they acted with an extreme amount of entitlement. that because the liberals had ruined the country for 10 years, it was now their turn. couple that with a lot of snide, childish shitposting, and an absolute bombardment of anti-trudeau ads and rhetoric, they basically bullied trudeau out of office, and once he was gone, they didnt have a platform anymore.
then enter the Trump , Trade war, and threats of Invasion shit. The conservatives basically waffled during this foreign policy crisis that pissed a lot of people off. the reality had changed and a lot of people felt like bringing a party that was polluted with the far right, was now no longer tenable.
Fiscal conservative ideas, maybe.
Socially he’s relatively liberal. Maybe not quite as much as Trudeau, but nowhere near what the CPC has become.
We don’t need fiscal conservatism right now either. People are suffering and they’ve been told to tighten their belts too many times.
He sounds like he’s ready to spend on capitol projects at the moment.
In his book he calls for government spending on capital projects in order to kick-start private investment in expanding their businesses (and payrolls, ultimately leading to more employees in better paid jobs and therefore at a higher taxable level)
Look, that’s great in the short term, but after what we’ve seen in the last 30 years, I don’t know how anyone can put any faith in private investment anymore. We’ve had 2 market crashes, at least 2 instances of severe real estate value depression, Vishna knows how many bailouts and what to show for it? Look at the telecoms in (frankly, anywhere, they’re all shit) the US - for a decade they put a surcharge on every single bill that was supposed to help them expand high-speed internet to all parts of the country, not to mention the billions of dollars the federal government provided. The result? Rural areas are still on dialup!
Eh. If Trump keeps sending shit our way it will be really easy to succeed against them. You know what happened to the British League of Fascists back in the day?
On what do you base the “do nothing” comment?
That’s a win to me. Not every one on the left wanted a social left leader. Social issues are important. But the economy right now is the biggest fire.