The vast majority of people know for a fact that their vote mathematically does not matter
If a full third of people stayed home, that’s a systemic problem, not an individual responsibility problem.
You understand that in a two party system, these two statements are basically incompatible?
Especially when you consider that we have early voting starting a month before the election, along with mail-in voting being available in nearly every state. If you didn’t vote, it’s because you didn’t want to vote, not because you couldn’t vote. Yes, some degree of civic participation is expected, welcome to being an adult.
Someone commented just a few days ago that voting blue in OK was pointless. I brought up some stats that if every one of the non-voters in OK had voted in the last election, Kamala could have carried the state with 200k people to spare.
If all of the people who stayed home would have been kamala voters then it sounds like she failed to inspire them to vote. It sounds like she lost an election.
Yes, if an unprecedented, impossible turnout occurred then dems might’ve won, but that’s not actually a strategy, that’s fantasy. Assuming there isn’t some level of divine intervention, then people are right that their vote doesn’t matter, because this is the real world where we already know a plurality of people don’t vote.
It’s almost like voter disenfranchisement works.
I don’t know why liberals can’t get this basic concept: if electoralism is meaningful at all, then the electorate cannot be wrong.
If the electorate voted “wrong” then your democracy doesn’t do what it claims to, it does not represent the people. <- this is actually the correct answer btw
Blaming the electorate achieves nothing.
The electorate didn’t fail the dems, the dems failed the electorate.
It only “works” because the individual voter did not vote.
Blaming the electorate achieves nothing.
IMHO, it achieves a lot more than voting 3rd party.
The electorate didn’t fail the dems, the dems failed the electorate.
The electorate failed themselves. They listened to Russian propaganda about Kamla killing babies in Palestine. They fell for republicans fantasies of red strongholds so tough that Democrats shouldn’t even bother voting. They fell for the general apathy about their choice sown by foreign assets and transmitted like a fucking online mind virus.
All I can say is; They may not have voted for trump, but they definitely voted for this.
You live in a different universe where talk matters more than actions and individual voters have more power than the systems and people that consistently screw them over.
You understand that in a two party system, these two statements are basically incompatible?
Especially when you consider that we have early voting starting a month before the election, along with mail-in voting being available in nearly every state. If you didn’t vote, it’s because you didn’t want to vote, not because you couldn’t vote. Yes, some degree of civic participation is expected, welcome to being an adult.
Someone commented just a few days ago that voting blue in OK was pointless. I brought up some stats that if every one of the non-voters in OK had voted in the last election, Kamala could have carried the state with 200k people to spare.
If all of the people who stayed home would have been kamala voters then it sounds like she failed to inspire them to vote. It sounds like she lost an election.
Yes, if an unprecedented, impossible turnout occurred then dems might’ve won, but that’s not actually a strategy, that’s fantasy. Assuming there isn’t some level of divine intervention, then people are right that their vote doesn’t matter, because this is the real world where we already know a plurality of people don’t vote.
It’s almost like voter disenfranchisement works.
I don’t know why liberals can’t get this basic concept: if electoralism is meaningful at all, then the electorate cannot be wrong.
If the electorate voted “wrong” then your democracy doesn’t do what it claims to, it does not represent the people. <- this is actually the correct answer btw
Blaming the electorate achieves nothing.
The electorate didn’t fail the dems, the dems failed the electorate.
It only “works” because the individual voter did not vote.
IMHO, it achieves a lot more than voting 3rd party.
The electorate failed themselves. They listened to Russian propaganda about Kamla killing babies in Palestine. They fell for republicans fantasies of red strongholds so tough that Democrats shouldn’t even bother voting. They fell for the general apathy about their choice sown by foreign assets and transmitted like a fucking online mind virus.
All I can say is; They may not have voted for trump, but they definitely voted for this.
You live in a different universe where talk matters more than actions and individual voters have more power than the systems and people that consistently screw them over.
That’s not a gap I can bridge.
A lot of words to say “I’m wrong but I can’t admit it.”