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jackeroni@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago

Liberals: "As long as it's a western country...."

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jackeroni@lemmy.ml to Memes@lemmy.ml · 2 days ago
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  • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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    There’s whole groups of people who have a problem with the genocide in Palestine but don’t care about the one happening in Ukraine.

    • Ensign_Crab@lemmy.world
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      We’re not selling weapons to russia for genocide.

      There’s a lot of people who have a problem with russia but dearly love everything netanyahu is doing.

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      I see plenty of people, even on this site, who are calling for peace in Ukraine. Unfortunately they get shouted down by armchair warriors who just see all this as part of their geopolitical ‘game’.

    • jackeroni@lemmy.mlOP
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      That’s because, there isn’t. Russia just taking out the Nazi’s

      • ordnance_qf_17_pounder@reddthat.com
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        So they say, but there are Nazis fighting for Russia. Wagner group, named after Richard Wagner whose music Hitler was fond of. One of their founders and leaders was openly a Nazi. Rusich group also operates within Wagner and their leader is even more of a Nazi.

        The links between the Russian state and right-wing extremist groups are numerous. But it seems to me in general that ultranationalist/fascist groups have stronger support in former Soviet states than elsewhere. Russia and Ukraine are no exception.

      • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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        Women and children, though?

        • davel [he/him]@lemmy.ml
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          Still not a genocide. There is no war where women, children, and other civilians don’t end up getting killed.

          Noam Chomsky: Russia is fighting more humanely than the US did in Iraq

          Also, a lot of people seem to think that this started in Feb. of 2022 when it really started eight years before.

          • BBC, 2014: Ukraine underplays role of far right in conflict
          • Human Rights Watch, 2014: Ukraine: Unguided Rockets Killing Civilians
          • The Hill, 2017: The reality of neo-Nazis in Ukraine is far from Kremlin propaganda
          • The Guardian, 2017: ‘I want to bring up a warrior’: Ukraine’s far-right children’s camp – video
          • Washington Post, 2018: The war in Ukraine is more devastating than you know
          • Reuters, 2018: Ukraine’s neo-Nazi problem
          • The Nation, 2019: Neo-Nazis and the Far Right Are On the March in Ukraine
          • openDemocracy, 2019: Why Ukraine’s new language law will have long-term consequences
          • Kyiv Post, 2019: United Nations: 13,000 killed, 30,000 injured in Donbas since 2014
          • Al Jazeera, 2022: Why did Ukraine suspend 11 ‘pro-Russia’ parties?
          • New York Times, 2024: U.N. Court to Rule on Whether Ukraine Committed Genocide
          • SatansMaggotyCumFart@lemmy.world
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            Wasn’t 2014 the year Crimea was invaded?

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              It was the year that Ukraine was couped; the year that Crimea, Donetsk, and Luhansk voted by referendum to secede from Ukraine; and the year that Crimea voted by referendum to join Russia.

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                That’s the referendum with 89% voter turnout where 97% voted to leave Ukraine?

                Those are almost unbelievable numbers.

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                  Your unwillingness to believe them is not proof of anything

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                  Do you find it hard to believe that a majority Russian & Russian-speaking people, with family and business ties in Russia, whose president they voted for had been couped, might prefer joining Russia over the far-right wing anti-Russian coup government of Ukraine?

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