It seems to me a repeating pattern that once freedom of thought, speech and expression is limited for essentially any reason, it will have unintended consequences.

Once the tools are in place, they will be used, abused and inevitably end up in the hands of someone you disagree with, regardless of whether the original implementer had good intentions.

As such I’m personally very averse to restrictions. I’ve thought about the question a fair bit – there isn’t a clear cut or obvious line to draw.

Please elaborate and motivate your answer. I’m genuinely curious about getting some fresh perspectives.

  • Libb@piefed.social
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    What is, in your opinion, a necessary set of minimal restrictions on freedom of thought, speech and expression?

    • Liberty of thought?
      What the fuck?! Anyone should be free to think what they want, no matter how ugly, dirty or stupid, or even criminal, that could be. That’s thoughts, ffs.
    • Liberty of expression. My stance is that we should not tolerate call to murder or to direct violence against anyone or any group of persons (be it physical, or otherwise). That also means, we should not tolerate any call to the ‘I feel offended’ argument to try to shut anyone we disagree with (we’re all free to not listen to anything we don’t like, that doesn’t mean we have any right to censor it), and no tolerance towards any call to ‘vengeance’ or to ‘cancel’ anyone no matter how much they ‘deserved’ it (judging and then, maybe, punishing someone should be the exclusive job of justice not of an angry (and stupid) mob of people).

    For the rest, the liberty of expression and the liberty of discussion are fundamentals to any working democracy—and to any working educative system too, looking at you (way too many) colleges and universities. Their absence being key to the creation of any kind of… dictatorship you can think of.

    I’ll let anyone pick the kind of political regime they want to live in, I’ve made my choice and it’s not a dictatorship even one controlled by the ‘good guys’. Fuck that.

    Edit: if you feel like downvoting this, by all mean do it but keep in mind that this won’t teach me (or anyone else for that matter) much of your reasoning in doing so. So, if you want to help me (and anyone else reading this) realize how wrong I am, maybe explain why/how in a comment? Otherwise, your downvote won’t mean much if anything, to me at least.

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      Yes on all accounts - I think freedom of thought and expression are linked to a great extent. We form and develop thoughts and ideas by expressing and discussing them, especially when it comes to more advanced concepts that benefit from group insights.