cross-posted from: https://freefree.ps/users/faab64/statuses/114885039540867898

For as long as I live, I will never forget that the whole world watched Israel starve 2 million innocent people in Gaza, killing children on a daily basis and did nothing to stop it, even worse, punished those trying to end it and helped, funded, protected and armed the genocidal regime of Netanyahu.

#NeverAgain #NeverForget #NeverForgive #Gaza #Israel #Genocide #USpol #EUpol #Politics

@palestine@lemmy.ml @palestine@a.gup.pe @israel @lebanon @syria @iran

  • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
    31·
    16 hours ago

    To quote a more obvious comment

    [I]f you didn’t vote for Democrats because of Palestine, it must be because you want everyone in Gaza killed. Enabling the guy who wanted to ban Muslims from the United States is a confirmation that you’re a huge fan of Netanyahu. You’d have to be unbelievably stupid to not vote, or to vote for Republicans if you support the Palestinian people. It’s nauseating to hear people who enabled Trump to bitch about what he’s doing to Palestine when they refused to use common sense and do the right thing by voting for Harris.

    And before anyone comes at me: tell me the process by which we get more progressives in office. I’ll give you a clue: it doesn’t start with “not voting”, it ends with voting for them, once you’ve done the hard work of getting them on the ballot.

    • piefood@feddit.onlineEnglish
      21·
      11 hours ago

      lolwut?

      Why would voting for Democrats have stopped the people in Gaza from being killed? The Democratic leadership is literally the reason that Palestine is the way it is, and Harris said that she saw nothing wrong with that, implying that she would have continued on supporting the Genocide.

      Believe it or not, it was possible to vote against Trump, but also vote against the Democrats.

      Here’s how you get more progressive’s in office: Stop voting for parties that fight against progressives.

      • lmmarsano@lemmynsfw.comEnglish
        2·
        10 hours ago

        So, I’ll carefully answer your remarks by quoting answers from the comment, because you apparently missed them.

        Why would voting for Democrats have stopped the people in Gaza from being killed? The Democratic leadership is literally the reason that Palestine is the way it is, and Harris said that she saw nothing wrong with that, implying that she would have continued on supporting the Genocide.

        [I]f you didn’t vote for Democrats because of Palestine, it must be because you want everyone in Gaza killed. Enabling the guy who wanted to ban Muslims from the United States is a confirmation that you’re a huge fan of Netanyahu.

        Simply not having Trump (who practically wants everyone in Gaza killed, wants Muslim bans, licks Netanyahu’s boots, chose to officially recognize Jerusalem as capital of Israel, relocated US embassy to Jerusalem) is better.

        Believe it or not, it was possible to vote against Trump, but also vote against the Democrats.

        You’d have to be unbelievably stupid to not vote, or to vote for Republicans if you support the Palestinian people. It’s nauseating to hear people who enabled Trump to bitch about what he’s doing to Palestine when they refused to use common sense and do the right thing by voting for Harris.

        Not understanding FPTP voting when it’s been explained ad nauseum is unbelievably stupid. No, your claim is false. You believe falsehoods.

        Only votes to a mainstream party candidate can beat the other mainstream party candidate.

        Here’s how you get more progressive’s in office: Stop voting for parties that fight against progressives.

        And before anyone comes at me: tell me the process by which we get more progressives in office. I’ll give you a clue: it doesn’t start with “not voting”, it ends with voting for them, once you’ve done the hard work of getting them on the ballot.

        • piefood@feddit.onlineEnglish
          21·
          8 hours ago

          Your intentional mis-representing of my reply doesn’t mean that I missed anything.

          Simply not having Trump (who practically wants everyone in Gaza killed, wants Muslim bans, licks Netanyahu’s boots, chose to officially recognize Jerusalem as capital of Israel, relocated US embassy to Jerusalem) is better.

          Trump being worse than Harris does not mean that Harris wouldn’t have done the same thing. I do not disagree that Trump is worse, but that’s not what we were talking about.

          Not understanding FPTP voting when it’s been explained ad nauseum is unbelievably stupid. No, your claim is false. You believe falsehoods.

          Can you point out what I said that was a falsehood? Because, nothing I said in that statement is false. It was indeed possible to vote against Trump, and also vote against the Democrats. FPTP has nothing to do with how that works. A vote for a third party can be a vote against both.

          Only votes to a mainstream party candidate can beat the other mainstream party candidate.

          This is a falsehood. If a non-mainstream candidate got enough votes, they would win against a mainstream party candidate.

    • zbyte64@awful.systemsEnglish
      1·
      11 hours ago

      It’s not an either or situation, there is plenty of blame to go around. But I believe that the people with the most power are the most responsible. I know that runs counter to American corporate culture and can be a cultural shock to hear.