the indigenous people have been heavily colonized. being a us state does not preclude you from some rich fuck showing up and ruining the ecosystem you maintain
Are they Americans or not? I know that’s a loaded question but we have to dump space trash somewhere if we are going to continue launching. We’re not allowed to dump the trash in international waters AFAIK so we have to pick somewhere in our borders.
you already dismissed this in another thread, but seriously, we don’t need spacex poluting our oceans and orbits like this. just because nasa isn’t doing launches isn’t reason to give a corporation carte blanche to do whatever in the name of “progress” while stymying real science. we could do, as a planet, with fewer launches than are being done and taking a longer view of science and research than quarterly profits.
start getting critical. have conversations with our neighbors to shift what’s possible. organize ourselves in the streets because the streets is where we win. refuse to accept that this is just the way things must be
same here all around. but if my octogenerian neighbors can take the time to demand that my great grand children i’ll never meet have a planet worth living on, then i can do the same for the next generations, too. it doesn’t have to be an all consuming fight, it’s a marathon not a sprint, afterall. but that marathon starts with setting a goal, and one of those goals should be a planet where a long term view of resource management is taken. just accepting “it has to be somewhere” ignores the truth that it doesn’t need to be at all. that people’s ancestral lands matter. that clean oceans and ecosystems matter. destroying something in the name of progress isn’t progress.
it doesn’t have to be much. it starts with saying your local community should be cleaner, and that it shouldn’t just dump its waste in another community. we all live together, ultimately.
we both are. but you have to think global and act local. our power is in our ability to convince the people around us that there’s something wrong with the way things are and something to be done about it. so it starts with county politics, state politics, national politics, and then global. movements take years and they always start with shifting what’s possible
the indigenous people have been heavily colonized. being a us state does not preclude you from some rich fuck showing up and ruining the ecosystem you maintain
Are they Americans or not? I know that’s a loaded question but we have to dump space trash somewhere if we are going to continue launching. We’re not allowed to dump the trash in international waters AFAIK so we have to pick somewhere in our borders.
Gulf of Mexico or The Pacific. Pick one.
you already dismissed this in another thread, but seriously, we don’t need spacex poluting our oceans and orbits like this. just because nasa isn’t doing launches isn’t reason to give a corporation carte blanche to do whatever in the name of “progress” while stymying real science. we could do, as a planet, with fewer launches than are being done and taking a longer view of science and research than quarterly profits.
WTF. I want NASA back, I hate SpaceX. They suck. So what do we do?
start getting critical. have conversations with our neighbors to shift what’s possible. organize ourselves in the streets because the streets is where we win. refuse to accept that this is just the way things must be
cool story bro. I’m getting old and I’m very tired.
same here all around. but if my octogenerian neighbors can take the time to demand that my great grand children i’ll never meet have a planet worth living on, then i can do the same for the next generations, too. it doesn’t have to be an all consuming fight, it’s a marathon not a sprint, afterall. but that marathon starts with setting a goal, and one of those goals should be a planet where a long term view of resource management is taken. just accepting “it has to be somewhere” ignores the truth that it doesn’t need to be at all. that people’s ancestral lands matter. that clean oceans and ecosystems matter. destroying something in the name of progress isn’t progress.
it doesn’t have to be much. it starts with saying your local community should be cleaner, and that it shouldn’t just dump its waste in another community. we all live together, ultimately.
Which community though? Are we not all Americans?
we both are. but you have to think global and act local. our power is in our ability to convince the people around us that there’s something wrong with the way things are and something to be done about it. so it starts with county politics, state politics, national politics, and then global. movements take years and they always start with shifting what’s possible
Why not the Hamptons or Atherton?
I think it’s too far from the equator or some shit.