I’ve never bought a porn game nor ever played one, but I just think it’s stupid that such large companies fold to a lobby organization and start moderating the sale of products.Christian fundamentalist activists are persistent and organized, and it’s effective. I think it’s bad how a small minority is able to dictate the lives of other people and I like how people get riled up because I hope it will remind the people in charge of those large corporations that catering to extremists is a bad decision.
TLDR: Idgaf about the games, I just hate it when religious zealots dictate the lives of others.
EDIT: I might have been wrong about “Collective Shout” and didn’t look into it enough before forming an opinion.
EDIT 2: Yeah, I don’t think “Incest Daughters BDSM” deserves saving. They seem to be primarily targeting rape and incest games, and I can definitely understand that you want to see rape games gone from if you’re an organisation like this. Article
However, I still don’t know how accurate their own article is, I might check out more sources/perspectives when I have time.
It might be because of child abuse themes and the portrayal of robot sex workers. It has been criticized before.
We knew right from the start that Detroit: Become Human was going to be heavy going. The 2016 and 2017 trailers both featured children in peril: first a child dangled from a rooftop, then a young girl being beaten by her father, but David Cage defended the dark subject matter with the promise that “there’s a context in the story, there’s a reason for that”, and we gave the game the benefit of the doubt. The problem is that having now seen the game in full it is clear that Cage’s child abuse narrative isn’t content with just one scene, and definitely isn’t used with care, context, and solid reasoning.
I’m not sure if I agree with this sentiment. I feel like it was mostly focused on the way Kara goes out of her way to protect Alice, but I can kind of understand how someone else could see this differently.
It’s a perfect example, because there’s nothing even close to pornographic in that game. The only possible reason would be because there’s a lesbian android couple that runs off together (if you let them).
There’s a solid argument that most of the porn games are some form of sexual abuse. You could argue that adults should be allowed to commit fake sexual abuse but its still likely not a positive for those who consume it.
Its interesting noone here has argued for porn games, just against censorship.
Right. Most of us don’t care about the porn, which is why we’re not arguing for it. Most of us just don’t like credit card companies being allowed to dictate what we do and don’t buy.
Plus, I’m guessing anybody with an incest fetish probably understands that isn’t something to go shouting to the world if they want their position to be taken seriously.
Makes it a bit harder to tell what someone’s intentions are though doesnt it? I dont think this problem will be solved by a petition anyways, itch.io is already working on a solution and steam likely will as well but be less vocal about it and the progress they are making.
I suppose it does make it more difficult, but very few things are as black and white as “people only care because they want to play porn games”. There’s usually some nuance in there.
And who knows, this whole situation happened because a tiny group pressured companies into acting a certain way. So it’s not like putting pressure on them has no effect. May as well try.
If the outcome is the most important thing than sure, may as well try. Although that will just get some of these horrible games re-listed so again I question the motivation.
The main issue I have is when people claim they are opposed to the idea of tiny groups pressuring companies to change policy, but then argue they should use the exact same tactic. This again seems to betray their stated motivation.
I’ve never bought a porn game nor ever played one, but I just think it’s stupid that such large companies fold to a lobby organization and start moderating the sale of products.Christian fundamentalist activists are persistent and organized, and it’s effective. I think it’s bad how a small minority is able to dictate the lives of other people and I like how people get riled up because I hope it will remind the people in charge of those large corporations that catering to extremists is a bad decision.TLDR: Idgaf about the games, I just hate it when religious zealots dictate the lives of others.EDIT: I might have been wrong about “Collective Shout” and didn’t look into it enough before forming an opinion.
EDIT 2: Yeah, I don’t think “Incest Daughters BDSM” deserves saving. They seem to be primarily targeting rape and incest games, and I can definitely understand that you want to see rape games gone from if you’re an organisation like this. Article However, I still don’t know how accurate their own article is, I might check out more sources/perspectives when I have time.
How about Detroit: Become Human? Because they removed that as well.
It might be because of child abuse themes and the portrayal of robot sex workers. It has been criticized before.
‘Detroit: Become Human’: Exploitative and Tasteless
I’m not sure if I agree with this sentiment. I feel like it was mostly focused on the way Kara goes out of her way to protect Alice, but I can kind of understand how someone else could see this differently.
I’m against the censorship, to be clear, but a David Cage game might not be the best example to use in the future lol
Why? Because you don’t like them?
It’s a perfect example, because there’s nothing even close to pornographic in that game. The only possible reason would be because there’s a lesbian android couple that runs off together (if you let them).
There’s a solid argument that most of the porn games are some form of sexual abuse. You could argue that adults should be allowed to commit fake sexual abuse but its still likely not a positive for those who consume it.
Its interesting noone here has argued for porn games, just against censorship.
Should they be allowed to commit fake physical abuse? There are a lot of “violent” video games out there as well.
People tried to ban video games that contained violence decades ago and were unsucessful. Interesting that banning sexual content is working.
Probably not, there’s a reason the US military has spent money funding call of duty games.
Right. Most of us don’t care about the porn, which is why we’re not arguing for it. Most of us just don’t like credit card companies being allowed to dictate what we do and don’t buy.
Plus, I’m guessing anybody with an incest fetish probably understands that isn’t something to go shouting to the world if they want their position to be taken seriously.
Makes it a bit harder to tell what someone’s intentions are though doesnt it? I dont think this problem will be solved by a petition anyways, itch.io is already working on a solution and steam likely will as well but be less vocal about it and the progress they are making.
I suppose it does make it more difficult, but very few things are as black and white as “people only care because they want to play porn games”. There’s usually some nuance in there.
And who knows, this whole situation happened because a tiny group pressured companies into acting a certain way. So it’s not like putting pressure on them has no effect. May as well try.
If the outcome is the most important thing than sure, may as well try. Although that will just get some of these horrible games re-listed so again I question the motivation.
The main issue I have is when people claim they are opposed to the idea of tiny groups pressuring companies to change policy, but then argue they should use the exact same tactic. This again seems to betray their stated motivation.