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For Lemmy. Moving from the alien site to here has been fantastic.
I wanted to say that too. Of course, family is great too, but I’m always grateful for that. Today it’s Lemmy’s turn.
Brazil commemorates Thanksgiving? In what bizarro world? I’ve never met a single person here who ever did that, in fact the vast majority of people have absolutely no clue what Thanksgiving is or that it even exists.
The author is just pulling this shit out of their asses lol.
I was going to say lol, I’d struggle to find anyone who is even aware of it in real life
It is a wishful-thinking style article on the web where some yank once met some yank who lived in Brazil and thus decided from this that every person in Brazil celebrated the USian holiday. Same in Japan, who definitely do not celebrate thanksgiving any more than Brazil does. But the yanks all think the world revolves around them.
Labor Thanksgiving Day is a thing in Japan, though. It’s the equivalent of Labor Day.
It is not, however, the holiday that Americans call Thanksgiving.
Certainly not, but it is at least a holiday that is recognized in an official capacity and a lot of people get the day off from work or get out early. From what I’m hearing in the other comments, Brazil doesn’t really do anything at all, so it’s more of a holiday in Japan than it is in Brazil.
If other countries had a public holiday on January First, would that mean they celebrate Federation Day? If they had a public holiday later on in January, then are they celebrating my countries Invasion Day?
Yes, it is the same day as one in America. No, that doesn’t mean the Japanese are all celebrating a US thanksgiving.
It’s not always the same day, this year is just coincidental.
Being a holiday established during the post-war US occupation of Japan, though, I wouldn’t say it is entirely disconnected from the US holiday. It was willed into existence by Americans based on the fact that the US also celebrates a holiday around that time of year, and so the name is not coincidental.
I’d consider them as related as Christmas and Yule, at least.
It may be a USA Brazilian thing, the diaspora is quite large.
Maybe, but that’s like 0.1% of the population, there aren’t many American communities in Brazil. Maybe it’s a thing in Americana (a town founded by ex-confederates, I shit you not), but otherwise…
Didn’t a lot of people (confederate) move to South America, mostly Mexico, Brazil, and Argentina after the civil war?
6000 to Brazil more especifically, somewhat insignificant number if you ask me considering the number of germans, italians, japanese and arabs that immigrated here.
I meant in the context of celebrating thanksgiving.
I know, 6000 people mostly concetrated in the town of Americana with roughly 250k citizens (not all American descendants obviously), so if there’s a place that might celebrate Thanksgiving in Brazil, it’s there.
Isn’t that the town Ford had built to make rubber so they could practice"vertical integration?" (Thanks stuff you should know podcast!) LolEdit: thanks Wikipedia and Caligvla, NO thanks to stuff you should know! Interesting history there lol
This article in Wikipedia mentions Brazil under “Observance.” Apparently there are a couple of Brazilian laws that establish Thanksgiving as a holiday and set its date as the fourth Thursday in November.
So maybe edit Wikipedia? Note to them that it isn’t known or celebrated?
I really wish I hadn’t mentioned Brazil or Japan. I was just interested in what people were thankful for. I’m truly sorry if I offended Brazilian or Japanese people.
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Thankful for my union fighting hours on hours to negotiate a better job for me. The other day they negotiated until 3 am!
I am thankful for being born and living in Europe 🇪🇺
That’s looking increasingly like a good choice you made.
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My Pathfinder group, who agree with me that to (fictionally) run screaming at people with a lit black powder bomb in my hands is the right thing to do.
No one in Japan celebrating a fake holiday you Americans came up with.
It’s called Labor Thanksgiving Day (kinro kansha no hi):
A national holiday for honoring labour.I mean, all holidays are kind of fake. They aren’t self-evident, even kinro kansha no hi.
But happy Kinro Kansha No Hi!
Well no, the Americans holidays are 99% fake. Thanksgiving wasn’t a thing until presidents proclaimed it.
Christmas is fake because 1) the religious conflict with April and 2) Corporate wanting people to buy stuff during December.
Valentine’s day is another corporate scam to sell stuff that it soon became a thing in Japan too ( but we added white day).
Halloween is the false narrative name for Allhallowtide and lost the original meaning of respect for the dead.
I don’t know any actual holiday Americans ever created that isn’t a national thing or international event.
I hate to break it you but all holidays, like the rest of human customs and traditions, are made up by humans.
Yes but they were original and had history or something. American? Nothing but profit and cheap propaganda.
Something can have historical significance and also be rampantly commercialized at the same time. These are not mutually exclusive things.
Imagine yourself as a historian from a 1000 years from now. When you look back at the coca cola bottles, the Walmart signs, the oversized trucks all unearthed from the forgotten sands of time, you won’t see it and say ‘there is no culture or historical significance to be found here’. Instead, you will contemplate on what crises this century was going through that turned so many to overconsumption and yet still feel dead on the inside.
Your so called ‘lack of culture’ in holidays that are filled with superficial excuses from corporations to spend is history and culture in the making. This isn’t an assessment on whether this is good or bad, this is history regardless of what you may think of it. The sooner you realize this, the sooner you realize that maybe Americans are not the homogeneous entity you thought it was. Maybe when you look beyond the glamorous decorations and lavish spending, you will see there are families struggling to feed their 5 five kids and yet still do their best to bring the holiday spirit to the table.
I’m not an American, so I don’t have any stakes in this. I’ve lived in 5 countries, USA included, and I’m tired of people abroad complaining about the lack of culture in the US while gleefully importing American movies, music, franchises, movies, holidays, spending habits, slangs, etc. You can’t have it both ways. Either the US doesn’t have culture, or it does and it’s being exported. Pick one.
That’s the most odd thing anyone said about culture and history of civilization. Events should be fun, it should let future generations learn, it should become better and should bring new ideas.
The American culture gives nothing fun, there’s no generation learning because they block it, it doesn’t become better because things like concerts cost $200 or a walk to the park cost federal money to enter. Zero ideas instead they are killing all ideas including their own like Rock and Roll.
When people say America has no culture, it absolutely does mean they don’t have culture.
That’s different from the Japanese one… how, exactly?
Christmas is actually about the mushrooms, Amanita Muscaria to be more precise
Juneteenth is a very American holiday. For bad reasons obviously, but still American.
Yes but it’s not like an event for celebrating or cheering. It’s always about fighting and the people are still fighting.
I’m thankful for my wife and family. Also overcoming my years of struggle with depression.
That’s awesome!
3 years now. Never did I think I was capable of this kind of mental stability. Thankful every day.
I’ve had months before. I can’t even imagine years. So happy for you ❤️
TIL that Brazil has a Thanksgiving day… But we do not celebrate it, and -unfortunately- it’s not a holiday.
Anyway, I’m glad of the friendships that I have and had.
Thankful for two years cancer free, my son is getting good grades and doing good at soccer and martial arts (the two things I did growing up) and the company I work for is growing massively and work is still interesting.
Cheers
That’s awesome! How great to be able to say all that where a few years ago you must have felt like the world was caving in on you.
So happy for you mate
Thanks yeah for real
fun place called fediverse
It’s been a rough year and I came very close to being furloughed. Managed to get a new client just at the right time and now I’m thriving again. I’m thankful for having frankly a lot of luck over the years which has put me where I am today. I’m not saying hard work wasn’t important too, but sheer luck has been helpful too.
So many things are, frankly, out of our control, and we act like they aren’t sometimes. I think being thankful is a way of acknowledging that the lines fell out in pleasant places.
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