Toasters, kettles, stoves, ovens…

    • papalonian@lemmy.world
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      4 days ago

      Saying that all appliances turn energy to heat is true, but saying that all appliances do is turn energy in to heat is not. While heat is still a byproduct, lots of appliances make things move as well.

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          They’re really moving refrigerant. It’s just that the refrigerant keeps changing temperature (heating up at one end of the journey and cooling down at the other end).

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            3 days ago

            More specifically, we force it to undergo phase changes under different pressures, and in doing so it absorbs/releases latent heat in the air. It’s converting latent heat to sensible heat.

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          I understand that, and called it out in my comment. Heat being a byproduct of movement does not mean that a device that creates movement “only” creates heat. That’s like saying all drink dispensers only dispense piss, because what does it eventually turn in to?

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      4 days ago

      Why stop at appliances? By that logic, humans are nothing more than self-propelled heaters. The whole universe is nothing but shifting pockets of heat like the ripples of a pond bouncing back and forth until they all disappear.

      Such nihilism.

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      4 days ago

      False. My water filter pitcher does not turn energy into heat.

      (Ok, fine, it uses gravity to move the water through a filter, which technically converts some of the potential energy of the water into heat through friction, but that’s not something the pitcher does, that’s something the earth does that the pitcher uses to its advantage.)

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            3 days ago

            Oooh I love debating semantics. Is a sieve an appliance? A slotted spoon? They both work in the same way as your water filter.

            Common usage of the quantifier kitchen appliances indicates use of electricity. I would describe my electric coffee grinder as a small appliance, but not my mortar and pestle.

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              3 days ago

              Yes, kitchen appliance usually means powered by gas or electricity, but if something is powered by gravity, it’s still an outside power source. So that’s what I would say the difference is.

              A mortar and pestle is powered by your own movement. A filter pitcher is powered by gravity. So I would so that it’s an appliance because of that. A sieve and a slotted spoon are a harder delineation, since they both are partially powered by gravity. I would say that because they have no moving parts, they are not machines, and so may not be considered appliances, but that’s only my own thoughts, not a dictionary definition requirement. Topologically, a sieve and a filter pitcher are basically the same thing. So that’s a conundrum.