This has been bothering me lately because I understand that in the future everything will most likely only get worse and it will be impossible to tell whether a product was made by a person or generated by AI. Of course, there won’t be any normal divisions; most likely, everything will resemble a landfill, and who knows who did it AI or people, and trusting corporations, as you know, is a bad idea; they are lying hypocrites.
In that case, are there any databases or online archives containing content created exclusively by humans? That is, books, films, TV series, cartoons, etc?
In the future you won’t be able to tell. This is about the time you’ll have to worry about the fate of humanity.
Form meaningful trusting relationships with other people
If you are holding the book in your hand and it was published before 2015, then that content is almost certainly the product of human action.
Yes, you should have bought books before 2022 or even before 2020, because now book texts can be distorted by AI.
Libraries and physical archives!
There are tells but it’s getting harder and harder. One thing is, you have to look for the people.
Case in point, a few weeks ago I discovered some really good covers of the KPop Demon Hunter songs. So if you don’t know the scene, this Netflix musical has been making record breaking profits and numbers and everyone and their brother wants a piece. And the music is so good, and tons of people are doing covers.
A few months ago, “is it on Apple Music/Spotify” wouldn’t have been a tell, but now it is. So a lot of these covers are on paid streaming, because covers are perfectly acceptable legally. It’s fair use. However, recently AI generated music has started to come up, and the streaming services have recently put their feet down and said “no more.” So when you’re looking at such a cover on YouTube, it’s probably going to have streaming links. It’s more convenient to listen on one of those services than it is to watch YouTube, and Spotify pays more than YouTube, and Apple Music pays more than both of them. So that’s where they want you to listen. When people are all over the comments saying “put it on Spotify” and they say “nah we’re YouTube exclusive,” what they’re saying is, they aren’t allowed on Spotify (or Apple Music). They do want more money, but they won’t get any on platforms that ban generative AI. So they stick to YouTube, which is one platform that allows it.
With legitimate art, you can usually find the human behind it. With some art, the artist will want to remain anonymous. In anime, for example, a lot of these artists are underage, and they’re savvy, they’re not putting themselves out there on social media beyond the art and their anonymous comments. They’re still more human than AI, they just won’t show their face or say where they’re posting from. (And that’s just good OPSEC in general.)
There’s also the frequency. Art takes time. It takes weeks, months, depending on what it is. AI can do it in seconds. So if they’re posting whole new stuff every day, every other day, there’s a solid chance they’re using AI to make it.
Not all AI slop is completely made by AI. Sometimes they take stuff made by humans and use AI to enhance it somehow. That’s what the KPDH stuff was. They were using an AI tool to separate the stems (the individual instruments) and enhancing each one, changing some, altering others.
Anyway, in 2025 now, it’s much harder than it ever was before to spot AI slop. The time of six fingered hands is gone. Next year, year after, certainly the next decade, it’s gonna be next to impossible to tell.
What’s worse, these days, AI made stuff is still prompted by humans. All AI slop has a human behind them. But what happens when the AI starts doing this stuff on its own? Right now, AI is interacted with by humans. Soon, AI will initiate the interactions. It could be doing it already, we don’t know.
What’s worse, these days, AI made stuff is still prompted by humans. All AI slop has a human behind them. But what happens when the AI starts doing this stuff on its own? Right now, AI is interacted with by humans. Soon, AI will initiate the interactions. It could be doing it already, we don’t know.
Well, nothing surprising, AI will really learn to generate content itself without human intervention and will do it incredibly beautifully and effectively, that you might even fall in love with it.
Therefore, the sooner people create offline libraries of what is humanly created, and fill these libraries only with human art, the better.
I recently made a pdf with some of my notes on hints of AI in images and music, but I’m not sure how to send files here
It’s not easy ofc, and it will get harder with time, but I am convinced we can tell if trained a bit. Because there are clear differences in the creative processes between humans and machines, which will always result in different biases
With time I think we’ll learn to only trust people we have some social connection with, so we know they are real and they don’t use AI (or they use it up to a level acceptable to us)
Well what have you come up with them?
Two that I noticed are:
For drawings in the ghibli style, you can see noise on areas that should have all the same colour. That’s because of how the diffusion model works, it’s very hard for it to replicate lack of variation in colours. If fact that noise will always exist, it’s just more noticeable on simple styles.
For music, specifically with Suno, it tends to use the similar sounding instruments between different tracks of the same specifispecified genres, and those sounds might change during the track and never come back to their original sound (because it generates section by section of the track from start to end, the transformer model will feed the last sections back as input to generate the new ones, amplifying possible biases in the model)
Also: could some interesting Lemme create /c/slopornot ?
Computer algorithms have been enhancing movies and pictures for a while now.
Games too
Well, yes, you’re right, and they also replace some phrases with others, if a person says something wrong, and it might be noticed on popular channels.
The tools used in creation have next to nothing to do with the quality of the output.
I’d like to preface that I like AI content for my own amusement and sometimes for convenience. I think it’s neither the best nor the worst thing to ever happen to the world like so many lemmy users seem to.
Current state, most AI generated content (images, video, even text) have some general tells. For text, they tend to lean on certain phrases and formatting. Picture and video both still contain noticeable artifacts that give it away, though that is becoming less prevalent over time. They’re a lot more noticeable when you use the tools yourself and trying to overcome the patterns is difficult without manually intervening.
I think you have to ask yourself what degree of human involvement is the cutoff for you. Is it only 100% non generated content? Even prior to the sudden llm push, that would be really difficult to find. A lot of software, photoshop and predictive text for example, have used machine learning to improve their algorithms for years. It’s not likely you’ll find anything unassisted anymore. What degree of human made modifications AFTER something is generated is enough to consider it good enough? If I start with a generated image but significantly modify it with an image editor to fix issues and finalize the ‘vision’, is that enough?
I personally think you’ll have to create your own compass. Bad content is bad regardless of how it’s made. If you cannot tell the difference if a human made it or a machine, does it really matter?
I personally think you’ll have to create your own compass. Bad content is bad regardless of how it’s made. If you cannot tell the difference if a human made it or a machine, does it really matter?
Consuming something that was simply generated with minimal effort is extremely frustrating, it’s like watching a crappy Netflix show, only now there aren’t even real people on it, it’s just generated content, and what’s the point of that when I can create content for myself using AI?
Agreed. I wouldn’t want to be sold something just plainly generated by someone else, especially if they didn’t put any effort into it.
I have had a pretty good time coming up with stupid prompts with friends, but I think the social aspect is doing the heavy lifting.
Why is a difference you can’t notice important to you?
In the case of fake news, extremely.
Someone anonymously sends you a video of your best friend abusing a bunch of animals, don’t you want to have the skills to know if the video is real?
Great example.
why would you think a video of your best friend abusing a bunch of animals is real?
Because until a few years ago videos were almost all real or easy to tell if they were fake
You have a shit best friend if you can see a video of them doing that and believe it to be true.
Okay so change the scenario you are given a video that shows your SO cheating on you. Your SO denies it happens, can you trust video evidence?
You are a member of a jury in a court of law and you are shown a video of the defendant killing another person the defendant claims it’s AI, can you trust video evidence?
You are watching the news and they play a clip of a politician saying some bad things, can you trust the video evidence?
You see a video of police beating a protestor, the police officer claims it was AI and the witnesses are antifa plants, CAN YOU TRUST VIDEO EVIDENCE?
Literally it’s the same thing over and over again but for over 100 years we could trust video evidence with a decent amount of certainty and now in the course of less than 5 years the ability to spot fake videos just became astronomically harder and the ability to make fake videos got much easier. That should be scary to you because I can guarantee you in the next 10 years at least one innocent person will be put in jail because of AI video and at least one guilty person will be kept out of jail because the prosecutor could not prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the video wasn’t AI
I was really hoping he’d try to refute these points because they’re excellent but I feel like he’s gonna ghost at this point
How how to distinguish between human created content and ai generated content.
First let’s start with why would want to distinguish between human created content and ai generated content.
Followed by the benefits of being able to distinguish between human created content and ai generated content.
Add in a sprinkling of what would happen when you do and don’t distinguish between human created content and ai generated content.
And a couple of examples when and when you would try to distinguish between human created content and ai generated content.
Notable examples of when people have successfully distinguished between human created content and ai generated content.
Now back to your question. It varies from case to case. But really: just read the damn article.
Your country is going to elections and a leaked video of one of the candidates happears on social media that shows them raping a child or whatever einous stuff.
Would you like to know if that’s a real video or a foreign country is trying to manipulate your elections to favour an emerging pseudo dictator that will sell your people to someone else? I would like to.
We are not talking about ai memes or trolls, virtually everybody get news and is influenced by stuff found on the internet. Knowing what is real and what isn’t is fundamental to your functioning as a person.
