• Cocodapuf@lemmy.world
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      1 day ago

      By sea is an extremely direct route, and by land isn’t an option, so yeah, the only comparison left is by air. And shipping by air is less efficient in all respects except time.

      So saying this route is especially inefficient by sea is just a confusing statement.

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        1 day ago

        By sea is an extremely direct route

        Maybe if you ship it from the very South of Argentina (maybe they do?), otherwise it’s a significant detour to go around South America whichever way you go.

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          24 hours ago

          I just looked it up, it’s a huge distance between Thailand and Argentina, about 17,000 km if you were flying. Going around the tip of South America adds an extra 1000 km, making the trip 6% longer. Meh.

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            18 hours ago

            What are you saying? It’s longer. That’s my only point. Are you saying it’s not longer… “enough”? What’s the deal here, what are we doing?

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              17 hours ago

              I mean, yes. It isn’t longer enough to make sea travel anything but the most efficient method to ship something.

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                9 hours ago

                That’s not the point, the point is how long it is to ship fucking pears halfway around the globe, twice. Imagine the stuff you’d need to smear on those pears to keep them fresh, or how unripe they’d need to be when harvesting.

                I’m not talking about how efficient sea shipping is vs flying or driving.

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                  3 hours ago

                  I’m not talking about how efficient sea shipping is vs flying or driving.

                  Well I guess that was what made the original statement confusing, because that’s definitely what it sounded like you were saying . I imagine this feels like a frustrating conversation (and I am sorry for that), but it’s probably because of that lack of clarity.

                  I mean you said traveling by sea was especially inefficient, mentioning the huge waste of resources. I think it’s reasonable to interpret that the way I did.