• FlyingCircus@lemmy.world
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    1 day ago

    My favorite are the anarkiddies who will be the first to tell you that corporations and capitalist states are lying propagandists, but when you say something remotely positive about China or the USSR they start talking like a 1950s US History textbook written by the CIA.

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      The english speaking world may be largely secular, but its a Protestant secularity. The same pattern of behaviors and underlying assumptions just transfers over to politics.

      Every instance of Christendom leftism is actually untrue and wrong and doomed to failure except for the personal beliefs of me and maybe a few people in my local church discord group.

      And the emphasis is always on personal beliefs, rather than actual actions. It’s how you get the Lockheed Martin engineer who “hates capitalism”. Doesn’t matter that they’re contributing to the globe-spanning death machine, because they personally believe the right things in their head.

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        Yeah you nailed it. China and the USSR have done soooo much for working people around the world, but because they have states, they are somehow more evil than the capitalist states to these people. They hate MLs more than billionaires it seems.

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          19 hours ago

          MLs are cool as long as it is “their” billionaires. See China pumping out more billionaires than the US and Russian oligarchy. These billionaires good, US bad.

          I personally hate all billionaires so I can’t see eye to eye with them.

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              18 hours ago

              Because they have told me so on many occasions.

              I once had a lot of respect for leftists, that was before I got to know ML.

              Now I rarely run into a leftist I can agree with. The majority here are campists who live in an alternative reality of Russian/China disinformation.

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                    14 hours ago

                    Or just an accurate understanding of what Marxism is. Saying that a Marxist can approve of billionaires is like saying a MAGA can loathe Trump. Like sure, maybe one or two people exist who identify that way, but it’s fundamentally the opposite of the ideology. I think it’s far more likely that you’ve just made up a straw man, if we’re throwing around logical fallacies.