• Doomsider@lemmy.world
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    6 days ago

    Meh, the US was founded by a bunch of slave owning wealthy protofascist genocidal fucks. You can’t really recover from country designed by the wealthy for the wealthy.

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      5 days ago

      specifically racist, white ,mysogynistic people. remember nazi party really started in the USA, germany just took pointers from our segregation laws.

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      6 days ago

      Yea. This country was doomed from the start. This is just the inevitable end to our fucked up society. The world is better off without this Imperialist shithole helping to rot the world.

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        5 days ago

        the propagandas worked so well, people dont support any progressive developments in the USA. Its just a slow death/decline for the usa going on for like 50+years. the gop is the bleeding wound, and the DNC is the temporary bandaids.

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          4 days ago

          Try the last 100 years. The people should have revolted instead of accepting the New Deal concession package. They managed to pacify us to keep the capitalist economy running and then spent the next century dismantling the foundations of resistance.

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      6 days ago

      How’s that? Every current democracy, including the decently functioning ones, started as an oligarchic system of some kind.

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        6 days ago

        I was just commenting that pre-Trumplethinskin is an imaginary state as the US was fascist before we had a name for it. You can’t harken back to a supposed better time when it never existed except inside the head of a misinformed person.

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          6 days ago

          Even if we accept that, doesn’t the existence of somewhat functional democracies that also started as oligarchies refute the statement that “you can’t really recover”?

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            6 days ago

            I believe they are saying that since the previous state was not functional, returning to it would not count as recovery and one needs to fix underlying problems that existed for most/all of the USA’s history.

            In git terms: Reverting the branch to the pre-2016 state will not be enough because the issue was caused by old technical debt and one will have to refactor that as well.

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            6 days ago

            No, I reject your musing. Numerous studies have shown the will of the people is a false premise. We live in a fascist world that uses democracy as a window dressing for oligarchy.

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                  6 days ago

                  And yet you still didn’t link a non-us study you claim there are numerous examples of.

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                    6 days ago

                    I produced evidence, I don’t speak other languages so my ability to conduct this type of research in other countries is limited. As I explained, my personal metric is an ever growing wealth gap.

                    Since I have provided evidence and I have done extensive research let’s turn this around. Please provide evidence of a country without an ever growing wealth gap and maybe I will believe we are not living in a fascist world.