I’m saying each parent and kid above certain age should be free to decide. You want to decide for them. Even if it’s majorities consensus it’s still one group of people limiting the rights of other group.
The point of public library is to offer access to books for free. By banning those books from library and saying “parents can show them to their kids if they want to” you’re basically saying that parent can show kids those books if they can afford and find them. Next you will decide that if majority decides those books should not be sold in local bookstores and if parents want to they can look for them elsewhere.
The books were already there. It’s not people democratically deciding how to spend public money. It’s zealots policing what other people should and should not like.
That’s the certain age we, as a public society, have decided that they are free to decide for themselves about what’s appropriate for them. Because they are adults. Fullstop.
You want to argue lowering the age where a child is considered an adult?.. is that where you want to go? I mean, you have been arguing in favor of showing porn to kids… so, maybe it is. Maybe it’s in your interest that kids are considered “mature” at a younger age.
It’s all just your opinions. It’s your opinion it’s porn, it’s your opinions 16yo should have have access to it. You’re calling something porn and then attacking people for showing it to kids. You’re exactly like christian zealots. I’m done talking to you.
you’re the one arguing to show kids explicit sex scenes man. Dunno why you think I’m the weird one here. I’ve been trying to tell you to fuckoff for awhile now. Thankyou for finally doing so.
You’re coming out of this looking like an absolute clown. I hope you don’t have kids- and if you do, I’m sure you’ll soon be wondering why they resent you.
explicit sex scenes? porn? brother, it’s text on a page. in the MIDDLE of a thick-ass book. good lord dude, if a kid is old enough to make it to the sex scenes and have followed it that far and understand it, they’re probably old enough to handle it. it’s not porn. full stop.
What’s explicit to you vs explicit to most people is very different. And that’s cool, if you think it’s fine and your kid can handle it, you do you boo. Most people, like the overwhelming majority of readers of that book would define it as erotic and pornographic.
But thinking “bah, that’s not explicit, I know what’s explicit for everyone” is just peak entitlement. You don’t get the make the rules for everyone else. I don’t get to make the rules. That’s the point, it’s a public school, it has what the public agrees on. And the public, mostly agrees that those books are not appropriate for children. Full stop.
so… you want to argue that the age of maturity should be lower? You can argue that… sure, just saying though, it definitely puts you in leagues with a lot of other types that want to lower the age of maturity for all sorts of other reasons. You wanting to stand toe-to-toe with them on that?
You about to wax poetic about how “some kids are real mature for their age?”
lmao you’re fucking crazy. the idea that kids younger than 18 are mature enough to handle sexual content in literature is not the same thing as being a pedophile you fucking nutcase.
my dude… 18 is the age we as a society generally agree on. That’s why it’s 18. We for the most part deem that’s when the average kid is mature enough to handle things and make decisions on their own without any oversight… That’s just where we drew the line at…
You are allowed to disagree. If you feel uncomfortable being compared to the other kinds of people who also disagree… that’s your moral problem to find peace with. Not mine.
I’m saying each parent and kid above certain age should be free to decide. You want to decide for them. Even if it’s majorities consensus it’s still one group of people limiting the rights of other group.
The point of public library is to offer access to books for free. By banning those books from library and saying “parents can show them to their kids if they want to” you’re basically saying that parent can show kids those books if they can afford and find them. Next you will decide that if majority decides those books should not be sold in local bookstores and if parents want to they can look for them elsewhere.
The books were already there. It’s not people democratically deciding how to spend public money. It’s zealots policing what other people should and should not like.
the age is 18.
That’s the certain age we, as a public society, have decided that they are free to decide for themselves about what’s appropriate for them. Because they are adults. Fullstop.
You want to argue lowering the age where a child is considered an adult?.. is that where you want to go? I mean, you have been arguing in favor of showing porn to kids… so, maybe it is. Maybe it’s in your interest that kids are considered “mature” at a younger age.
It’s all just your opinions. It’s your opinion it’s porn, it’s your opinions 16yo should have have access to it. You’re calling something porn and then attacking people for showing it to kids. You’re exactly like christian zealots. I’m done talking to you.
you’re the one arguing to show kids explicit sex scenes man. Dunno why you think I’m the weird one here. I’ve been trying to tell you to fuckoff for awhile now. Thankyou for finally doing so.
You’re coming out of this looking like an absolute clown. I hope you don’t have kids- and if you do, I’m sure you’ll soon be wondering why they resent you.
explicit sex scenes? porn? brother, it’s text on a page. in the MIDDLE of a thick-ass book. good lord dude, if a kid is old enough to make it to the sex scenes and have followed it that far and understand it, they’re probably old enough to handle it. it’s not porn. full stop.
that’s absolutely a “you” opinion.
What’s explicit to you vs explicit to most people is very different. And that’s cool, if you think it’s fine and your kid can handle it, you do you boo. Most people, like the overwhelming majority of readers of that book would define it as erotic and pornographic.
But thinking “bah, that’s not explicit, I know what’s explicit for everyone” is just peak entitlement. You don’t get the make the rules for everyone else. I don’t get to make the rules. That’s the point, it’s a public school, it has what the public agrees on. And the public, mostly agrees that those books are not appropriate for children. Full stop.
i think you were being a little bit crazy, but mostly reasonable until i read this. the age is most definitely not 18.
so… you want to argue that the age of maturity should be lower? You can argue that… sure, just saying though, it definitely puts you in leagues with a lot of other types that want to lower the age of maturity for all sorts of other reasons. You wanting to stand toe-to-toe with them on that?
You about to wax poetic about how “some kids are real mature for their age?”
lmao you’re fucking crazy. the idea that kids younger than 18 are mature enough to handle sexual content in literature is not the same thing as being a pedophile you fucking nutcase.
my dude… 18 is the age we as a society generally agree on. That’s why it’s 18. We for the most part deem that’s when the average kid is mature enough to handle things and make decisions on their own without any oversight… That’s just where we drew the line at…
You are allowed to disagree. If you feel uncomfortable being compared to the other kinds of people who also disagree… that’s your moral problem to find peace with. Not mine.