Workers control everything, basically. It’s hard to put all into one comment, but it’s a bit like anarchism. Considering that I’m fairly new to Lemmy, I take that as a compliment. Plus, private property isn’t a thing under this system.
Another fun fact is that China cannot be truly considered communist. It’s socialist, but not communist. It has similarities to communism, though. Considering some of the people working under harsh conditions for money, it cannot be considered communist.
No it isn’t, Socialism “with Chinese Characteristics” is doing some extremely heavy lifting.
It’s a capitalist state, pretty evidently. The government having state run companies doesn’t negate this. Further, those state run companies are not beholden to their workers, nor the people at large.
Without worker control, that’s not socialism.
Workers unions are functionally illegal (the state run one, most certainly does not count as it doesn’t authorise strikes in almost all circumstances, as far as I’m aware).
Look up China Tobacco, a great example of how just having industries nationalised, doesn’t make something socialist.
China is just as bad as the rest of the capitalist nations, they’re just bad in their own unique ways.
All the cool comrades know that “socialism” in the mould of Stalinist USSR or China isn’t a great model.
Inb4 USA is worse! - nah, they’re both capitalist states. I’m not a “China Bad” believer, much of what we hear in mainstream western media is overblown or inaccurate to manufacture consent for a conflict between us.
The ruling class in all countries simply use the rest of us for their own gain.
Libertarian communism? Does that mean every business is a CO-OP?
How would you prevent the state from favoring one CO-OP over the other and creating a co-op monopoly by favoritism?
Sorry, not trying to attack you. I’m a radical leftist and libertarian communism is sort of the most Lemmy thing I’ve ever heard.
Workers control everything, basically. It’s hard to put all into one comment, but it’s a bit like anarchism. Considering that I’m fairly new to Lemmy, I take that as a compliment. Plus, private property isn’t a thing under this system.
Well, you had my curiosity, but now you have my attention.
Another fun fact is that China cannot be truly considered communist. It’s socialist, but not communist. It has similarities to communism, though. Considering some of the people working under harsh conditions for money, it cannot be considered communist.
China doesn’t claim to be communist, “yet”.
No it isn’t, Socialism “with Chinese Characteristics” is doing some extremely heavy lifting.
It’s a capitalist state, pretty evidently. The government having state run companies doesn’t negate this. Further, those state run companies are not beholden to their workers, nor the people at large.
Without worker control, that’s not socialism.
Workers unions are functionally illegal (the state run one, most certainly does not count as it doesn’t authorise strikes in almost all circumstances, as far as I’m aware).
Look up China Tobacco, a great example of how just having industries nationalised, doesn’t make something socialist.
China is just as bad as the rest of the capitalist nations, they’re just bad in their own unique ways.
All the cool comrades know that “socialism” in the mould of Stalinist USSR or China isn’t a great model.
Inb4 USA is worse! - nah, they’re both capitalist states. I’m not a “China Bad” believer, much of what we hear in mainstream western media is overblown or inaccurate to manufacture consent for a conflict between us.
The ruling class in all countries simply use the rest of us for their own gain.